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BADGERS (formerly 'Another Badger (Constance)'

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  • 12 Feb 2013 21:44
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    As soon as I saw the name, I remembered who she was.  Werner and I have been in touch, but the photos he sent, made her look like she was sailing on the sea - no land in sight - and I didn't make the connection with a boat on a lake.  But I should have mentioned it anyway as 'another' Badger.  Clean went out of my mind.  She looks like a nicely built boat, too.  Great to hear that she's at the Wooden Boat Festival, which sounds like a really cool event.  Indeed, sufficient incentive to cross the Tasman - if only I had a wooden boat!
  • 08 Feb 2013 13:31
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    Annie, if you go to this Wooden Boat Festival page, type Cloudchaser in boat name field, it comes back with the Badger built in Gippsland by Werner.
  • 08 Feb 2013 00:13
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    Annie Hill wrote:Not sure you're even going to No 2, Gary.  I just heard from John Welsford today, at the Tasmania Wooden Boat shindig - he says there's a boat very like a badger there, that he is going to have a look at today.  I'll tell you more when I get the story!
    Could be the same boat. Not so far to sail from Gippsland.
  • 07 Feb 2013 23:58
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    Gary King wrote:Someone is sailing around on a lake in Gippsland, Vic, Australia on new Badger 34.
    It must be this chap who's pics were posted on WB forum  5 years ago. Its awesome he wrapped up the project and launched.

    And she looks great, too!
  • 07 Feb 2013 20:18
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    Not sure you're even going to No 2, Gary.  I just heard from John Welsford today, at the Tasmania Wooden Boat shindig - he says there's a boat very like a badger there, that he is going to have a look at today.  I'll tell you more when I get the story!
  • 07 Feb 2013 18:07
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    Someone is sailing around on a lake in Gippsland, Vic, Australia on new Badger 34.
    It must be this chap who's pics were posted on WB forum  5 years ago. Its awesome he wrapped up the project and launched.
    So, ours would be the 2nd Badger in Australia, not the first.
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  • 06 Feb 2013 23:43
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    Annie, you're not responsible for what other people do. Looks like they caused their own problems. 

    Apparently yards are only made from sitka spruce, everyone knows that! (from the page the buyers put up condemning the boatyard)
  • 06 Feb 2013 23:20
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    Gary King wrote:
    Molly of Plymouth - the coin drops! Read about her a few years ago - a controversial story where the owners abandoned the build in a PI boatyard. So that's what's become of her.

    What a sad story (and I feel a large stab of guilt, realising that I probably inspired these people to an unrealistic dream).  The boat looks quite delightful, too.  As James says, the accommodation choices are somewhat inappropriate, but the quality of work looks to be superb.  If one were wealthy enough to go and get a boat built, I would say that these Phillipino builders would do an excellent job for you.

    There is some cryptic comment about the rig being unusually heavy, but perhaps James is just referring to the wooden masts.  Much more to the point is the stainless steel guard rail, which must have weighed a ton and high up, to boot.  Losing 500 kg from the keel is not so clever, and really, by now, Jay should have altered all the designs to show an alternative welded steel keel, with either lead or iron ballast. This is a much better option for anyone other than the home- and impoverished builder.

    But it's tragic to think of such a lovely yacht used as a motor boat for fishing trips.  When builders and buyers fall out, the situation often ends up being ugly.
    Last modified: 06 Feb 2013 23:31 | Anonymous member
  • 06 Feb 2013 15:44
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    Reply # 1200579 on 1181923
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    Lesley Verbrugge wrote:Not about Constance, but not too far off topic (Yet), did you ever come across a boat called Molly of Plymouth? We saw her moored off Abanico YC Puerto Princesa,  (Palawan, Philippines) June 2012. She did remind us of Badger. couldn't find out more than she was owned by a Chinese guy who bought her to use for fishing trips. She looked in good condition, no sails though and very high in the water.  We do kick ourselves for not going back to take a photograph of her. 

    Molly of Plymouth - the coin drops! Read about her a few years ago - a controversial story where the owners abandoned the build in a PI boatyard. So that's what's become of her.
    No sails? What a waste, would have been a great buy for someone in need of a Badger, only a short(ish) sail to the East coast of Aus..

    I imagine she would be high in the water, they screwed up the keel, 500kg short apparently, but the rest of her looks great.
  • 20 Jan 2013 18:15
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    I emailed John Greetham, the owner of Constance , who replied as follows:

    Thanks so much for your email and the link to 'Bill's' blog.
     
    It is always somewhat surprising to find people taking an interest in one's  efforts. He's quite right of course about the mooring being a bit remote and difficult to navigate but for those who don't know it the Walton Backwaters are so well worth a visit and the stuff of Swallows and Amazons.
     
    For my part the combination of Yacht Club, boat yard, shops and shelter -  and economy make for a super spot to prepare a boat for sea whether it be a rebuild or a refit.   For me it has been a few years of finishing off a new build which started in a barn near Ely with Jay Benford's excellent drawings and a box of hand tools.    It is worth noting that since I have been at Walton we have seen no/few live-aboards wintering and single handed ocean crossers heading in with the swallows for winter.
     
    True, Constance seems to have been lingering too long (in fact we have been in-build for 12 years or more!) but I have been beavering away mostly below decks in the last couple of years and am totally confident 2013 is the year when she will brave that Essex mud and make for the offing with Walton astern and who knows where ahead. 
     
    Best regards, John 
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