New sail for Tystie

  • 16 Mar 2012 23:09
    Reply # 861037 on 857847
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    David Tyler wrote:In the Box online file storage/documents/David Tyler's files, I've started a little photo essay on the making of Footprints' and Tystie's sails. I'll add some more to it later.
    Slieve, I'll certainly be doing the same for my carbon fibre spars in due course.
    David, very interesting read but could you change the colours used in the drawing. the yellow in partcular does not show up well.
  • 16 Mar 2012 23:00
    Reply # 861035 on 860754
    Gary King wrote:I'd be very interested in reading a report on making a carbon fibre mast without vacuum bagging too. Go for it.
    Gary,
    I won't be making a mast, just yard, battens and boom. My present mainmast will stay in place. It was used for a single sail before, and can do it again.
    But the braid is available in sizes up to 12 inches diameter, so in theory a mast is possible. Just a big project, like a big wooden mast, that sounds a bit daunting to me. I made a carbon mast, many years ago, using unidirectional tape. I didn't manage to get it any stiffer than an alloy mast would have been, but it was light and strong. It took an awful lot of work, laying up tape, and I'm hoping that the braid that's now available will be much easier to use.
  • 16 Mar 2012 22:52
    Reply # 861033 on 833895
    I was in the Mitre 10 Mega store this morning, and spotted some Norski products. Amongst them, some epoxy resin that seems to be suitable for carbon fibre, and of lower viscosity than West, more like Epiglass - but 60% of the price of Epiglass. It's a New Zealand company:
    I've taken a chance and bought 5 litres. I have no idea yet how much I'll need to make yard, battens and boom.
  • 16 Mar 2012 16:12
    Reply # 860754 on 833895
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    I'd be very interested in reading a report on making a carbon fibre mast without vacuum bagging too. Go for it.
  • 16 Mar 2012 12:21
    Reply # 860582 on 833895

    David

    The spar making sounds very interesting.  I have made several carbon fibre booms for various racing boats.  I used a foam insert from builders quality foam, wrapped the wet carbon layers around the foam added peelply and left to cure.  I removed the foam by dissovling with petrol.  Hey presto.... a hollow carbon boom.  To give them that shiney carbon look I applied polyester resin and 'faired' with this until silky smooth.  Worked a treat and I know at least two of the booms are still going strong......... ten years later.  Of course these were rectangular not round!!  But I see no reason why it wouldn't work for a spar.  The braided cloth sounds like a winner..........

    I look forward to reading about your progress.

    Peter

  • 16 Mar 2012 11:05
    Reply # 860551 on 833895
    David I look forward to your new Avatar.:)
  • 13 Mar 2012 22:23
    Reply # 857847 on 833895
    In the Box online file storage/documents/David Tyler's files, I've started a little photo essay on the making of Footprints' and Tystie's sails. I'll add some more to it later.
    Slieve, I'll certainly be doing the same for my carbon fibre spars in due course.
  • 13 Mar 2012 19:33
    Reply # 857697 on 833895

    Hi David

    Please go the DIY way, BUT, please write it up step by step complete with materials, suppliers and costings. I think there would be a big readership for such information.

    Cheers, Slieve

  • 13 Mar 2012 19:27
    Reply # 857692 on 833895
    Paul,
    I'm well aware that there is a firm in North Shore, Auckland, who will make carbon fibre tubes to order - but have you checked out what they charge for doing that??? There would be little need to do it myself if I were a millionaire. 
    There is little need for you to be hand- making every single part of La Chica. Why don't you just go out and buy a boat? There are plenty for sale in NZ. If you like, I can tell you where to go :-)
  • 13 Mar 2012 19:02
    Reply # 857666 on 833895
    David,

    If you are going the carbon fibre route there's little need to manufacture your own. Carbon fibre tubes are readily available in just about any length, diameter and wall thickness that you are likely to need. If you want, I can tell you where to go.
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