Luff hauling and yard hauling parrel

  • 29 Sep 2017 23:34
    Reply # 5288056 on 5286209
    Richard Brooksby wrote:

    “Slack” is the probably the wrong word. I always put at least some tension on it, of course, but it won't form a tight loop. I don't leave it flapping around.

    Ah, sorry, Richard.  I am frequently told that I am far too literal.
  • 29 Sep 2017 17:07
    Reply # 5287568 on 5283220
    Deleted user

    Thank you, Richard and Arne....

  • 29 Sep 2017 08:57
    Reply # 5286422 on 5286209
    Anonymous member (Administrator)
    Richard Brooksby wrote:

    “Slack” is the probably the wrong word. I always put at least some tension on it, of course, but it won't form a tight loop. I don't leave it flapping around.

    Don't worry, that is how it is on my rigs too. The YHP is not ment to clamp the yard to the mast.

    Arne


    Last modified: 30 Sep 2017 13:51 | Anonymous member (Administrator)
  • 29 Sep 2017 08:40
    Reply # 5286209 on 5286090
    Annie Hill wrote:
    Richard Brooksby wrote:

    On Tammy Norie, which has a standard H-M sail, the yard hauling parrel is important otherwise the sail tends to hang back from the mast. It needs to be slack when reefed down to the top triangle.

    That's odd: I've always hauled the YHP in tight, regardless of how much sail was set, flat or cambered.  In fact, part of stowing the sail was to haul it tight.

    It's physically impossible for the YHP to be tight on Tammy Norie when reefed right down. The battens have stacked back from the mast, constrained by their parrels. The yard sling point can't get close to the mast, so the YHP must form a large loop.

    “Slack” is the probably the wrong word. I always put at least some tension on it, of course, but it won't form a tight loop. I don't leave it flapping around.

    Last modified: 29 Sep 2017 08:40 | Anonymous member
  • 29 Sep 2017 07:46
    Reply # 5286090 on 5283905
    Richard Brooksby wrote:

    On Tammy Norie, which has a standard H-M sail, the yard hauling parrel is important otherwise the sail tends to hang back from the mast. It needs to be slack when reefed down to the top triangle.

    That's odd: I've always hauled the YHP in tight, regardless of how much sail was set, flat or cambered.  In fact, part of stowing the sail was to haul it tight.
  • 28 Sep 2017 14:15
    Reply # 5283905 on 5283220

    On Tammy Norie, which has a standard H-M sail, the yard hauling parrel is important otherwise the sail tends to hang back from the mast. It needs to be slack when reefed down to the top triangle. The luff hauling parrel (upper only) doesn't achieve much except when reefed, when it helps to tighten the luff and so improve the leading edge of the sail. The overall fore/aft canting of the sail is much more influenced by the boom parrel and boom downhaul.

    I never seem to have creases, but then my sailcloth is flat.

    Last modified: 28 Sep 2017 14:21 | Anonymous member
  • 28 Sep 2017 12:02
    Reply # 5283752 on 5283220
    Deleted user

    Kurt, John...thanks for the info.  OK, well the old sails worked fine without them.  I haven't tried the new ones yet, so I guess I'll see.

    Neil

  • 28 Sep 2017 09:49
    Reply # 5283632 on 5283220
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    Neil Tanner wrote:

    Hi all.....  I see the benefits of having the luff hauling and the yard hauling parrels on some of the JR sails but Van Loans book doesn't mention either one.  My yard has a parrel on it but like the rest, it's fixed.  Why should I have yard or luff hauling parrels?  Just curious.  Thanks!

    The luff hauling parrels are used to remove the diagonal creases from the sail panels. If you do not have any creases across the sail panels then you do not need luff hauling parrels. My old HM pattern sail did not develop any real creases so I did not need a luff hauling parrel. But my new camber panel fan shaped sail develops very significant creases so I have a running luff parrel which I need to use to remove the creases. There is a bit of work involved in this and on Footprints I use a winch to set up the luff hauling parrel which needs to be adjusted whenever I reef, or remove a reef. But I do not mind the extra work, it beats fiddling around with headsails!!
    Last modified: 28 Sep 2017 09:50 | Deleted user
  • 28 Sep 2017 06:22
    Reply # 5283490 on 5283220

    Hi Neil,

    If you never see the need to control your yard's fore-and-aft pitching when reefed, or during raising/reefing, nor the need to tighten the leech by peaking the yard and cocking the sail aft, then maybe you're as well without them.

    Your parrels don't allow the freedom that ours do. The extra bit of friction they add by controlling position while you're raising sails is a slight justification, but the running lines add some of their own. If your fixed parrels are sufficient, you have two fewer lines to tend! I wouldn't mind that.

    Cheers, Kurt


    Last modified: 28 Sep 2017 06:33 | Anonymous member
  • 27 Sep 2017 23:22
    Message # 5283220
    Deleted user

    Hi all.....  I see the benefits of having the luff hauling and the yard hauling parrels on some of the JR sails but Van Loans book doesn't mention either one.  My yard has a parrel on it but like the rest, it's fixed.  Why should I have yard or luff hauling parrels?  Just curious.  Thanks!

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