rig for 13 foot 6 inch sailing dinghy yachting monthly junior

  • 06 Sep 2017 15:32
    Reply # 5065802 on 4995646

    I think that cambered panels with stiff battens is the way to go, with the planform just being scaled down from a proven larger sail.

  • 06 Sep 2017 13:12
    Reply # 5065494 on 4995646
    Deleted user

    thanks Annie for that 

    after all its about enjoyment

  • 05 Sep 2017 22:31
    Reply # 5064629 on 4995646

    I'd say it's swings and roundabouts.  But Pugwash, all 8ft of her, managed with a 6 panel sail and certainly it was wonderful to be able to carry exactly the right amount of canvas.  The children may enjoy pulling the sail up and down, too!

  • 05 Sep 2017 14:07
    Reply # 5063871 on 4995646
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Peter,

    when you have come this far, and Allan Boswell has had a look at your design, then I suggest  you just go ahead.  Any input from here, except on specific details that you ask about, will just slow you down.

    It’s September already, so hurry up!

    Good luck,
    Arne


  • 05 Sep 2017 12:49
    Reply # 5063801 on 4995646
    Deleted user

    Hi


    well, the dinghy is coming on and I have got Allan Boswell to look at the rig design for me.

    Now the boat is not a racer and it's not intended to be but rather away of getting my youngest grand children interested in boats rather than I pads and phones. with this in mind I have to make a decision as to 4 panels or 5, both look good.

    Allans comments where there is a weight and cost saving with 4 and an increase in friction with 5

    My thoughts are that with 5 I can have more flexibility in keeping the boat gentle while the kids are learning

    I dare say if they like it they won't want it reefed but push it as hard as they can  until I shout about old things needing a bit of tlc a bit like myself

    So I would like to ask you all for your input on this

  • 27 Jul 2017 13:31
    Reply # 4997741 on 4995646

    Pete,

    a few years ago, at the Scottish Rally, I was treated to a sail on a members 10ft dinghy.  It had a cambered sail, and performed exceedingly well.  For a dinghy simplicity is a virtue, if I recall, she had the minimum number of controls.  If you trawl back through the magazines you will see a report on boat. 

  • 26 Jul 2017 21:47
    Reply # 4996534 on 4995646
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Pete,

    when I converted my 18’ Oslo dinghy to a JR (straight battens, baggy panels), I found the result to be a quick and much safer boat than it was with a Bermudan rig.

    Here and here are two little photo write-ups from the conversions, in 2009 and 2011. They should give you an idea. Just remember to use a light, soft canvas to let those small panels bag out in light winds.

    Cheers, Arne

    PS, there is also a short, un-edited video clip on Youtube.


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  • 26 Jul 2017 20:47
    Reply # 4996475 on 4995646

    I'd choose camber and stiff battens myself. Or possibly a Reddish sail, but I think the aspect ratio would be too low to be successful in a dinghy due to the space required for sheeting.

  • 26 Jul 2017 15:54
    Reply # 4995919 on 4995646

    hi pete

    forget about bendy battens, unless you plan a sail with almost no balance (<10%).
    i would recommend the options 3, 4 or 5.

    my favorite sails have stiff battens and cambered panels.

    utnik

  • 26 Jul 2017 13:10
    Message # 4995646
    Deleted user

    Fellow junk owners I am in need of some experienced in put 

    I am currently having a new rig designed for a yachting monthly junior 13 foot  sailing dingy the options I have been given are

    1/ Traditional flat sail with stiff battens

    2/ Flat sail with bendy battens

    3/ Flat sail with hinged battens

    4/ Cambered panel sail with stiff battens

    5/ Split junk (with stiff battens) which requires a different mast position

    6/ Aero junk which may require a different mast position

    7/ Wingsails of various types.

    I am thinking of 1 . 2 . or 4

    I would be very pleased to hear your comments and observations on this. you can down load the pdf for the junior from the Eventide owners association web site. please note not the Eventide owners .org these are not part of the Eventide owners and you should not find the plans there

    Pete

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