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Batten parrels fastenings

  • 28 May 2017 21:11
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    Reply # 4857108 on 4694922
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    Bryan, just Googled self-amalgamating tape. Looks like useful stuff! Very much like Arne's suggestion  but maybe stickier?! 

    I've got some of that heavily waxed flat stuff, Annie, and on our un-anodized battens (even though they may be painted) a combo of tape and that sounds like belt and braces - or even supenders!

    Pol.
  • 27 May 2017 05:50
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    Reply # 4855093 on 4854921
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    Annie Hill wrote:
    POL BERGIUS wrote:

    Graham Cox suggested a constrictor knot works against the fendering which is more my kind of thing. Unsure of my fendering yet, so I wonder if maybe three turns of small dia braid, hove as tight as possible around the lightly sandpapered batten, tied off with a reef knot and given a wee drink of epoxy all-round. It would save making a hole and risking the fizzing of s/s screw in alloy tube, although I'd probably end up with epoxy all over my sail. Or might the batten pocket be generous enough to accomodate the line so that it could be fitted before the batten is to be slid into its pocket? It might even look ok (to a pedant like me)!

    Pol.


    I haven't yet found any hitch that won't slip on an anodised alloy batten.  
    How about a turn of self-amalgamating tape under the hitch?
  • 27 May 2017 01:05
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    Reply # 4854921 on 4854701
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    POL BERGIUS wrote:

    Graham Cox suggested a constrictor knot works against the fendering which is more my kind of thing. Unsure of my fendering yet, so I wonder if maybe three turns of small dia braid, hove as tight as possible around the lightly sandpapered batten, tied off with a reef knot and given a wee drink of epoxy all-round. It would save making a hole and risking the fizzing of s/s screw in alloy tube, although I'd probably end up with epoxy all over my sail. Or might the batten pocket be generous enough to accomodate the line so that it could be fitted before the batten is to be slid into its pocket? It might even look ok (to a pedant like me)!

    Pol.


    I haven't yet found any hitch that won't slip on an anodised alloy batten.  However, many would grip on the unanodised stuff.  That really heavily-waxed, flat whipping twine the North Americans use would be your least bad bet.  If your anti-chafe is of the right length, this would, of course, save your parrel from slipping.  If you're using small stuff, you could probably tuck it under the pocket - I don't think batten pockets need to be too snug a fit.  In spite of your best efforts, the whole sail drifts away to leeward of the mast anyway.  Well, my best efforts, I should say.
  • 26 May 2017 22:00
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    Graham Cox suggested a constrictor knot works against the fendering which is more my kind of thing. Unsure of my fendering yet, so I wonder if maybe three turns of small dia braid, hove as tight as possible around the lightly sandpapered batten, tied off with a reef knot and given a wee drink of epoxy all-round. It would save making a hole and risking the fizzing of s/s screw in alloy tube, although I'd probably end up with epoxy all over my sail. Or might the batten pocket be generous enough to accomodate the line so that it could be fitted before the batten is to be slid into its pocket? It might even look ok (to a pedant like me)!

    Pol.
  • 14 May 2017 23:37
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    Reply # 4833147 on 4694922
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    Clamp Aid Red Hose Clip End Guards  Little plastic protrectors to slip over the end of the hose clips.  They cost about GBP4 for 20 plus postage.  I have used them, but it might be a good idea to glue them on.
  • 07 May 2017 10:24
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    I too have this tool, but somehow I have not become friend with it. I guess I must do a little more practicing with it.

    Now I came to think of it: On my first junk, Malena I used to secure the batten parrels from sliding on the battens just by putting on a ‘waist belt’ of several rounds of tape. Even my not so good rolling hitches did not climb over the (about 2mm) shoulder that the tape made.

    I consider trying that again on one or two battens on Ingeborg, just to see. Although the hoseclamps hold perfectly well, they are not nice to work with close to the sail cloth (sharp and pointy), and probably just add unnecessary cost.

    Arne

     
  • 07 May 2017 00:32
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    I've got one, and I like it very much. (I got it from Brion Toss, the rigger, and instead of the wingnut on the end, it has a custom machined handle/nut that is a bit easier on the hands. One really good thing is that the tightened wire seems much less vulnerable to corrosion and failure than the normal clamps. But there are two disadvantages compared to normal hose clamps.

    For one, you need a fair amount of space to flip the tool about 180 degrees around the hose when finishing the clamp, and I've not been able to use it in some crowded spaces.

    The other being that once "tightened" it is done, and has to be cut off and replaced if you need it tighter, perhaps because it leaks 'just a little bit'. Same if you want to disconnect something for service regularly.
  • 04 May 2017 08:38
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    Erik and Evi Menzel Ivey wrote:

    You may consider this tool...http://www.clamptitetools.net instead of a hose clamp. No sharp edges and the ends tuck in nicely.  With enough use it would be cheaper, too.


    Erik


    That's a clever tool.  Have you used one? 
  • 02 May 2017 17:04
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    You may consider this tool...http://www.clamptitetools.net instead of a hose clamp. No sharp edges and the ends tuck in nicely.  With enough use it would be cheaper, too.


    Erik
  • 29 Mar 2017 19:54
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    Jami Jokinen wrote:What about potential sharp edges of the hose clamps? Tape over?

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