Tystie's new wing sail

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  • 07 Jul 2014 07:18
    Reply # 3039046 on 3038372
    Deleted user
    I must learn to stick my tongue more firmly in my cheek when using hyperbole!  Nonetheless, I don't consider myself entirely unreasonable and am still planning to build a wingsail.  Of course, I'll watch David's sea trials carefully and benefit from his experience as well.  Although, it has little in common with a Junk Rig, Beneteau is making a commercial wingsail available  http://www.beneteau.com/Sailing-Yachts/Wing-Sail


  • 06 Jul 2014 21:17
    Reply # 3038748 on 3038372
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    I congratulate David

    with his new rig and admire him for his skills and energy to complete such a big, complicated project. Even so, I don’t share Darren Bos’ belief that  “the horizon will soon be filled with the outlines of wingsails powerfully propelling craft» I have seen how slow junk rig people have been  to take on new ideas, in particular if they have been left to construct the rigs and sails, themselves.

    My hope is that David’s new wing-sail performs well and proves rugged and reliable. In addition, it would be great if he could sell the idea to a major boat manufacturer and get paid back for his efforts. Only then will Darren’s prophecy turn out to be true, I am afraid.

    If not, the wing sail will just be a sail for the skilful avant-garde DIY-riggers and sailors.

    Anyway,
    good luck David!

    Arne

     

  • 06 Jul 2014 17:44
    Reply # 3038634 on 3038372
    Deleted user

    There is no doubt that David's current sail required a diverse range of skills and most of all, sheer willpower to come into being.  However, most of the heavy lifting has been done, with David gracious enough to blaze trail.  I think the horizon will soon be filled with the outlines of wingsails powerfully propelling craft.  Despite having witnessed/shared a few of David's struggles, I'm still convinced that building a wingsail is the way forward for me.  With the aesthetic of a Junk and the performance of a wing, who could refuse?

  • 06 Jul 2014 06:58
    Reply # 3038524 on 3038372

    Congratulations David, it's a very good job. As you say "It took a long time to work out methods to make the carbon fibre battens, to be light, stiff, strong, smooth..." I want in one year or two to rebuild all my wishbones to get as you a strong and light rig.

    We are in the atoll of Apataki in the Tuamotu where we pulled out  Grand PHA on the ground to clean the bottom and make a little repair on one skeg which have touched the corail.

    Beside us a 12m LeForestier junk "Lakatao" is anchored.

    Hoping to meet you again somewhere in the Pacific.

    Bertrand

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  • 06 Jul 2014 05:16
    Reply # 3038503 on 3038372

    Well done, David.  Let's hope you get plenty of good sailing in which to try her out.  I'm looking forward to seeing photos of Tystie from a distance.  But I think I'll stick with what I've got - or there or thereabouts.  It all seems too much like hard and skilled work to me!

  • 06 Jul 2014 00:37
    Reply # 3038458 on 3038372
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    Well done David, what do you do in your spare time...?

    Looks good, I look forward to more details.

  • 05 Jul 2014 22:33
    Reply # 3038414 on 3038372
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    Looks great David and interesting that you have gone back to the wing sail after the camber panel sail. Looking forward to an informative article with construction details and also hearing how it works out in the longer term but judging from your comments already posted it may be a better sail than the fantail sail. Who knows, this may be something for footprints in the future. 

    Unfortunately Footprints was quite badly damaged in the stern area as a result of a mooring incident during a recent bad storm. I am just waiting on insurance details to be worked out before repairs will be undertaken by one of our local boat builders.

  • 05 Jul 2014 22:12
    Reply # 3038407 on 3038372
    Anonymous

    Congratulations !!!  These are the best news of the week !!!  :-)

  • 05 Jul 2014 19:19
    Message # 3038372

    At last. It took four months to do two months work, but at last, the new rig is working. 

    The mast has to be lengthened, to accommodate the high aspect ratio sail.

    It took a long time to work out methods to make the carbon fibre battens, to be light, stiff, strong, smooth...

    The sail was the relatively easy part. Flat cut, just big. 580sq ft working area, x 1.5  to give total area to be sewn.

    Now comes the payoff for all that work. There are still plenty of things to be tweaked, but the performance to windward is much better, sailing closer and footing faster. Handling is easier than the low aspect ratio fansail, as the chord is two metres less.

    Some early photos here.

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