Bolger Tortoise

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  • 24 Oct 2014 16:47
    Reply # 3132985 on 3036245
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    Plans for Percy Blandford's designs and many others are available from:


    http://www.clarkcraft.com/

  • 24 Oct 2014 16:13
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    Plans for Percy Blandford's designs and many others are available from:


    http://www.clarkcraft.com/

  • 24 Oct 2014 13:41
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    Phil Bolger's plans, including the Instant Boat plans are still available from Dynamite Payson's website:


    http://www.mcssl.com/store/hhpaysoncompany


    The Big Tortoise plans cost $35, Nymph $35 for the basic plans and $80 for full-scale patterns for the rowing and sailing version of the Nymph


    There is also a Yahoo Bolger group: 

    https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/bolger/info


    According to that excellent site, Duckworks (a treasure trove of boat plans - it even has Percy Blandford's plans), Phil Bolger's widow, Susanne, often comments on the Yahoo group threads.

  • 23 Oct 2014 20:51
    Reply # 3132459 on 3036245

    Hi Mark,

    the rocker comes mostly from having some flare to the topsides and using parallel sided side panels which makes the best use of the plywood. This creates some rocker to the bottom of the dinghy which is added to by putting some deadrise in the bottom. The rocker should help in rough seas especially when rowing into the wind. If she is built in the nesting format the rocker should not be a problem when stowing the dinghy on deck.  I hope to be able to build one early in the new year and will report on construction and performance at that time.

    David.

  • 22 Oct 2014 13:45
    Reply # 3131139 on 3036245
    Getting a 10ft dinghy out of a 4x8ft sheet is simple but clever, (wish I had though of that).  My take on a non-stackable would be to make it symmetrical bow & stern, even simpler & better load carrying. 

    One question, does a double ended dory need much (if any) rocker?  A flat gunwale would make it sit upside-down on deck better.

    As this post has become more of a general discussion on dinghies (should it be re-titled):

    I have been looking into skin-on-frame boats.  I started in my teens with a grp slalom canoe, though always fancied a Greenland kayak.  There is lots of info on skin-on-frame kayaks, including some amusing YouTubes of the hull being attacked with hammers and various implements - so they are sure tough. They say they are less expensive and quicker to build.  There are also designs for dinghies, see http://www.gentrycustomboats.com/

    I would be interested to know if anyone has any experience.  David had a wee black one, though I believe no more?

    Cheers




  • 22 Oct 2014 08:13
    Reply # 3131048 on 3036245

    Hi Gary,

    two reasons for the pointy bow, first it came from the way that the bottom was shaped from the diagonally cut sheet of plywood, secondly it allowed for installation of side buoyancy tanks in the after  half of the dinghy while still allowing the dinghy to nest.. Calculations indicate that she should have adequate freeboard with three normal sized adults aboard, two in the stern plus one at the forward rowing position.

    The forward pointing dagger board has caused comment on other forums. It is a design element  I have used on several dinghy's that I have built. If the dagger board case is made loose then the board automatically assumes an angle of attack when going to windward with a consequent improvement in windward performance. 

  • 21 Oct 2014 23:20
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    David Webb wrote:

    Hi Gary,

    no problem, just let me know when and the internet route to find it so that I can see the discussion.

    By the way what do you think of the design???

    Thanks, David

    Hi David,

    Seems a bit pointy, we use the bow for load carrying too, so not sure about that one.

  • 20 Oct 2014 03:58
    Reply # 3127360 on 3036245

    Hi David, it would be tempting to build it and I just might one day. I have two sheets of ply but the are for the dinghy I am half heartedly building at present.

  • 19 Oct 2014 01:58
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    David Webb wrote:

    Hi Gary,

    no problem, just let me know when and the internet route to find it so that I can see the discussion.

    By the way what do you think of the design???

    Thanks, David


    Hi David here's the link.


    http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?183576-David-Webb-nesting-dinghy-design&p=4328026#post4328026


  • 18 Oct 2014 23:04
    Reply # 3126819 on 3036245

    I have a full set of construction plans for the smaller sister to Tortoise, called Shoebox, all of 5' 6".  I never built it. You could extrapolate from those drawings perhaps (or build the smaller one). I have a 7' 6" nesting dinghy that row well with one person in it and becomes a slug with two.  It is very wet in a chop, particularly if I use the outboard.  It is safe enough though, and I just resign myself to getting wet in windy conditions, or staying on board.  It is built out of 4mm ply and is reasonably light but I still find it a struggle to pull on deck.  I have a set of davits which I use for coastal sailing but Arion is a very husky 24 footer.  I have not nested the dinghy in several years (Sloth, as Annie says!) but will have to do so later this year if my plan to sail down the Tasman Sea to Sydney comes to fruition.  I really like the look of the Weslford 6' 1" pram and would build one if I had to replace the current model.

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