Bolger Tortoise

  • 17 Oct 2014 05:46
    Reply # 3126036 on 3036245

    Hi Gary,

    no problem, just let me know when and the internet route to find it so that I can see the discussion.

    By the way what do you think of the design???

    Thanks, David

  • 16 Oct 2014 11:09
    Reply # 3125193 on 3036245

    David do you mind if I share that on the WoodenBoat forum?

  • 14 Oct 2014 02:53
    Reply # 3122752 on 3036245

    I have just added a design for a 10 ft nesting dinghy to Members area/ your files/ drawings/ David Webb's boat designs that may be of interest to members who have contributed to this post. Any comments would be welcome. 

      It has not been built yet but the design inspiration came from making the maximum use of two sheets of plywood. The bottom is from one sheet cut diagonally and then shaped to the curve of the bottom. These are then joined at the bow and stern and blocked to the height shown on the plan and a taped fillet formed along the keel to fill the tapered gap and give it strength. A narrow tapered fillet of plywood could be used here. The sides are made from a second sheet of plywood cut to 16 inch widths which are then glass taped to length and fastened and then filleted and glass taped to the bottom panel and at the stem and stern. This forms the basic shell of the dinghy into which the nesting bulkheads buoyancy tanks and thwarts are glassed to make the final dinghy.  It nests in a space four foot six inches wide and five feet six inches long. If preferred the dinghy can be built non nesting and ends up ten foot one and three quarters inches long and four foot six inches wide. The simple balanced lugsail rig should be easy to set up and should provide adequate performance for the dinghy. The double ended design with substantial rocker should make it capable in rough weather and choppy water.

  • 09 Sep 2014 23:48
    Reply # 3096058 on 3036245
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    I've just found these: http://tarkacanoes.com (click dinghies). If that's not a typo they seem to be extremly lightweight indeed! Might be a bit small and low freeboard though, not sure about that.

  • 24 Jul 2014 23:20
    Reply # 3053699 on 3053022
    Gary King wrote:

    I've come to realise the mothership ought to be designed to carry a full sized (not nested) dinghy in the first place. Would have been much nicer to have a longer foredeck or enough space where a 9 or 10' dinghy could fit in comfortably.

    That's a big ask, Gary, on a boat of your size.  Such a large dinghy is a nice thing to have, but I was quite happy with the 7ft Nymph, which we could just fit on Badger's foredeck.  But 5 ft 6 is definitely a bit limiting, especially as neither your nor Susie appear to be hobbits!

    I wonder if Two Bits was as good rowing as a Nymph fully loaded? (I could always build a nesting Nymph if not.)

    In truth, I don't really remember, Gary, because we had the Tortoise in between.  But I do remember our Nymph being a very good load carrier and great fun to row.  But of course she was a lot shorter than Two Bits.
  • 24 Jul 2014 06:02
    Reply # 3053075 on 3036245

    The Rueben Nymph has more stability apparently. I had another pleasant day in the shed working on my tender.

  • 24 Jul 2014 03:52
    Reply # 3053022 on 3036245
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    I've come to realise the mothership ought to be designed to carry a full sized (not nested) dinghy in the first place. Would have been much nicer to have a longer foredeck or enough space where a 9 or 10' dinghy could fit in comfortably. (I envy those boats with davits and swim platforms, but the boat near us complains about transom dragging..) Since we only have space for 5'6", then a nester it is. A couple of unpleasant conditions have taught us a good rower is essential, ours is fast with just me in it, then bogs down badly with a second person. I wonder if Two Bits was as good rowing as a Nymph fully loaded? (I could always build a nesting Nymph if not.)

    Thanks for the offer David, but need to decide what we're building yet, and not till we are at a certain destination too. 

  • 23 Jul 2014 05:06
    Reply # 3050960 on 3050851
    Annie Hill wrote:
    Gary Pick wrote:
    Page 90 Annie.:-)


    I decided to go with the nesting dinghy as I had already started cutting out the parts for it. It's ply on frame but I'm doing it stitch and tape.
    Cheeky!  So I looked, wondering what drivel I'd come up with (you can't hold me to something I wrote 25 years ago, surely!  Actually, on re-reading, I'm just astonished and amazed at how sensible this writer is: I agree with her about almost everything!) Ah yes, it was the weight issue that really put me off.  50 lbs for each part seems a tad excessive to me.  But I am but a poor, feeble woman ... :-)

    I'd go for stitch and tape, too: easier to keep clean and probably lighter!

    She convinced me.:D
  • 23 Jul 2014 00:02
    Reply # 3050851 on 3050842
    Gary Pick wrote:
    Page 90 Annie.:-)


    I decided to go with the nesting dinghy as I had already started cutting out the parts for it. It's ply on frame but I'm doing it stitch and tape.
    Cheeky!  So I looked, wondering what drivel I'd come up with (you can't hold me to something I wrote 25 years ago, surely!  Actually, on re-reading, I'm just astonished and amazed at how sensible this writer is: I agree with her about almost everything!) Ah yes, it was the weight issue that really put me off.  50 lbs for each part seems a tad excessive to me.  But I am but a poor, feeble woman ... :-)

    I'd go for stitch and tape, too: easier to keep clean and probably lighter!

  • 22 Jul 2014 23:35
    Reply # 3050842 on 3049997
    Annie Hill wrote:
    Gary King wrote:

    How would you rate Danny Green's "Chameleon", Annie?  We will eventually need to replace the current dink, crumbling away as it is. I'm thinking the Chameleon could be the one.


    I didn't choose to include the Chameleon design in Voyaging on a Small Income, but Danny thought it a lot better that Two-bits and didn't want me to push that one.  I'm not so sure.  I think it is definitely a better boat, but am not so sure it's a better tender.  Two-bits was, if my memory serves, both smaller and lighter and, I believe, less complicated to build. I've seen one or two, but don't really have personal experience of one.

    These days I'm not really that keen on any dinghy that needs assembling: human nature (or more accurately, my nature), being what it is, I will put off going ashore if I need to assemble my tender and, even more to the point, will be tempted to tow it when I should haul it on board.


    Page 90 Annie.:-)


    I decided to go with the nesting dinghy as I had already started cutting out the parts for it. It's ply on frame but I'm doing it stitch and tape.
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