Converting my Nordship808 to JR

  • 05 Apr 2025 14:31
    Reply # 13483750 on 13481250

    First cut is the deepest...

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  • 02 Apr 2025 11:37
    Reply # 13482099 on 13481250

    I could make an inner sleeve from a second mast section to slide in, but I intend to make an external sleeve with a 180 - 200mm cylindric tube and fill the gap with moulding PU.


  • 01 Apr 2025 20:35
    Reply # 13481857 on 13481250

    You can make an internal sleeve from the same size tube with a sliver cut out from it - I had one inside Tystie's mast - but it's hard to do, and I'm not convinced it adds much strength. I think it's better practice to use a sleeve of uncut tube, and if it's too big, fill the gap with casting polyurethane.

    Yes, the maximum bending stress is at deck level.

  • 01 Apr 2025 19:32
    Reply # 13481805 on 13481250

    I intend buying a second of these masts particularly to make such a sleeve.

    Is the concern about stability in the lower area (heel to sail bottom)?



  • 01 Apr 2025 18:51
    Reply # 13481772 on 13481250

    I can think of two 8 metre boats with 6" x 3/16" masts - Fantail and Fanshi. However, these masts are hybrids, and the tube portion is of a stronger spec than the usual 6063 of a spun-tapered flagpole. I think the spun-tapered tubes will be stiff enough; and will be strong enough for cruising in a fairly relaxed manner. For cruising to wild and remote areas, perhaps the lower end could be reinforced by an external alloy sleeve extending from the heel up to the tack area of the sail, if one can be found that is a reasonably close sliding fit. 

  • 01 Apr 2025 18:17
    Reply # 13481748 on 13481250

    No, I do not have any detailed specifications on the aluminum tube. It is a try and error thing. Only thing I know is they had huge flags for over 20 years hanging.

    If I find a rather appropriate mast, I will swap. But it is difficult to find.

    About the backstays my plan is to only use the luvward (is that the correct expressieon?) side, the other will be hanging more or less loose on the leeward side of the sail. This is, how I am used to to do with the Bermudan rig.

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  • 01 Apr 2025 16:21
    Reply # 13481668 on 13481250

    Nice project, Thomas! Good to read that you start tackling it! :)

    Of course I understand your point about that mast is what you habe... but still: On Ilvy, the mast is 177x5mm for roughly the lower half, at 35m2 sail ares. It is quite bendy, I wouldn't feel comfortable with an even lower diameter... 

    Do you know any further specs about the aluminium? Which one is it?


    PS: backstays unfortunately rule out some major junk rig advantages...

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  • 01 Apr 2025 14:51
    Reply # 13481613 on 13481250

    Well thats the mast I found. For security reasons I consider using it with loose backstays.

    I will make the partners big enough to also house a bigger diameter.

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  • 01 Apr 2025 14:17
    Reply # 13481601 on 13481250

    It looks good.  I had a very similar, 35 sq m sailplan on 5-tonne Arion, and found it more than enough, very powerful once the wind was free, from a close reach to a run.  I could reef a panel down in 15 knots on a broad reach and not slow down, and often had two panels reefed down in 20 knots of wind.

    I did have a heavier mast, 200mm dia at the partners and 110mm at the truck, with a 5mm wall thickness, spun tapered.  150mm dia seems a bit light to me, but then I am a conservative sailor. I am hoping to find something similar to Arion's mast for my latest project, Arion II, in a year or two.

    Anyway, lovely project, and I look forward to hearing of your progress.


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  • 01 Apr 2025 13:09
    Reply # 13481574 on 13481250

    Thank you Arne, this helps me a lot. I was considering the INGEBORG sailplan, which now will be used.

    I hope the conversion is not too much for an old fellow like me, I will report my progress.

    Kind Regards, Thomas

    PS these 1m75 would even leave the front hatch untouched

    Last modified: 01 Apr 2025 13:46 | Anonymous member
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