Fisher 30

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  • 25 Sep 2022 04:50
    Reply # 12931274 on 12929596

     This is a seriously well-built boat that I would have thought would amply repay the effort of converting.  She will never be anything other than a motorsailer, so putting camber in the sail is a bit moot.  A flat junk sail is perfect for motor sailing.

    One would have to do the sums (have you looked at Arne's public domain files, in Junk Information?) , but I'm wondering if you just dumped the mizzen if you might be able to put your new mast in the same spot.  Chances are it would be quite a lot taller.  I'd just go for a straight H/McL sail myself.  She will look great, regardless.

  • 24 Sep 2022 05:22
    Reply # 12930680 on 12929623
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:

    Is it feasible to modify a Fisher 30 from Bermuda to Junk Rigged? I did search the forums and didn't see anyone trying to do such. 

    The number of sailboat designs is huge, while the number of Junk Rigged sailboats is smaller. As such, finding someone who has modified the exact same model might be hard. That said, it seems the general thought is that any boat can be converted and I don't see any show stoppers. The main thing is keeping the balance within reason. For example, your jib pulls the balance forward and most JR boats do not have that jib and so you are looking at the possibility of having to move one of your masts (probably your foremast) forward to compensate or using a split junk rig. I think you would want something that looks right as well with the style of the boat. For example a Reddish or Colvin shaped rig, though both are designed to be cut flat rather than cambered. How well is the boat balanced now? If it is reasonably well balanced, where is the sails centre of effort (or at least centre of area)? You will want any conversion to have a similar centre of area (I think a bit back by a few percent of the length is ok).

    Maybe post some pictures so people can comment. I am assuming that you have a ketch but looking at some of the other Fishers, it may not be in your case. (just looking at sailboatdata.com)


    Len, 

    I appreciate the quick response. The Fisher 30's fore-mast does seem to me to be set more forward than other ketch's, save for the two you mentioned. This may be a wishful-illusion on my part. 

    After reading your response I'm now thinking the mizzenmast may be the actual issue here, not just of location but also it's provided sail area due to it's size. 

    I'll ask around the Fisher Owners Association to see if they've come across any and how it all shook out. 


    Thanks again. 

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  • 23 Sep 2022 06:37
    Reply # 12929623 on 12929596
    Anonymous wrote:

    Is it feasible to modify a Fisher 30 from Bermuda to Junk Rigged? I did search the forums and didn't see anyone trying to do such. 

    The number of sailboat designs is huge, while the number of Junk Rigged sailboats is smaller. As such, finding someone who has modified the exact same model might be hard. That said, it seems the general thought is that any boat can be converted and I don't see any show stoppers. The main thing is keeping the balance within reason. For example, your jib pulls the balance forward and most JR boats do not have that jib and so you are looking at the possibility of having to move one of your masts (probably your foremast) forward to compensate or using a split junk rig. I think you would want something that looks right as well with the style of the boat. For example a Reddish or Colvin shaped rig, though both are designed to be cut flat rather than cambered. How well is the boat balanced now? If it is reasonably well balanced, where is the sails centre of effort (or at least centre of area)? You will want any conversion to have a similar centre of area (I think a bit back by a few percent of the length is ok).

    Maybe post some pictures so people can comment. I am assuming that you have a ketch but looking at some of the other Fishers, it may not be in your case. (just looking at sailboatdata.com)

  • 23 Sep 2022 05:22
    Message # 12929596

    Is it feasible to modify a Fisher 30 from Bermuda to Junk Rigged? I did search the forums and didn't see anyone trying to do such. 

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