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Ilvy racing

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  • 22 Sep 2026 11:44
    Reply # 13711886 on 13499881

    Hi Paul,

    thank you for sharing your racing experiences on Ilvy! 

    There are a lot of good ideas to try here....

    Congratulation for the race: what a courage to sail Ilvy that way!!!!

    Congratulations also for your work as JR Ambassador too, I`m sure that a sail on Ilvy on a windy day would be more eyes opening than everything else...

    Keep on Paul!

    Cheers Mauro

     

    Last modified: 22 Sep 2026 13:22 | Anonymous member
  • 22 Sep 2026 09:09
    Reply # 13711695 on 13499881

    David, Eric,

    Yes, indeed! I intended to do so this year and wanted to be there earlier to have time to talk to the organizer. But due to technical issues, I just could get there the afternoon before the race.

    Hopefully next year! I'm trying to stay in contact with him and maybe get him out on Ilvy for a short sail.

  • 21 Sep 2026 19:28
    Reply # 13710185 on 13499881
    Yes indeed the view of Ilvy (30:30) projected during the price giving ceremonie is magnificient :
    https://www.youtube.com/live/EX80_Jf7coA

    A great photo - but the ignorance of the commentary by master of ceremonies is even more breathtaking! Paul, could you get this guy to come out in Ilvy ,or indeed any good JR boat, before next year? Please??

  • 21 Sep 2026 16:32
    Reply # 13709895 on 13707579
    Anonymous member (Administrator)
    Anonymous wrote:

    Now, even the event producers couldn't ignore that yellow rig anymore: it was mentioned in a great picture at the prize giving ceremony, including a great foto. Some good junk rig advertisement!


    Yes indeed the view of Ilvy (30:30) projected during the price giving ceremonie is magnificient :

    https://www.youtube.com/live/EX80_Jf7coA

    At what speed were you sailing at that moment !

    During the start:

    https://www.youtube.com/live/S8MBoN_O3iU

    the speeker (31:30): "and there is a junk boat with the yellow sail...." He knew about the junk rig ! But the next question from the speeker was : "Do you think you can reef a junk rig ? " the answer, from the "expert", a professional sail maker, was "yes you can. You just lower down to the next batten, but it's not so easy. It's not a single handed reefing not a single line reefing on that one. I don't think so." The speaker : "No, I can imagine." The expert : " It would be interesting to see how he would do upwind with that kind of rig." Speaker : " Yes, that's going to be hard work, I think, like you say, upwind."  

    There is still a lot of advertisement to do !!

    Eric

     

    Last modified: 21 Sep 2026 16:34 | Anonymous member (Administrator)
  • 21 Sep 2026 11:47
    Reply # 13709380 on 13706162
    Anonymous wrote:
    Jan wrote:
    David wrote:

    Yes, I noticed that Ilvy was pointing as high as the fleet on the windward leg. 

    I don't think I'm mistaken in saying that Paul was sailing mostly on a port tack—the "bad tack"—at the time; I believe only the finish was on a starboard tack, though on a downwind course.

    Well, now I have sailed quite a few junks during the last 36 years, and I still struggle with deciding which tack is the bad one. I must be a slow learner...

    Cheers -  an cheers to Paul,
    Arne
    Maybe you just invented a new nickname for yourself, not Slowhand Clapton but Slowbrain Arne.
  • 20 Sep 2026 16:14
    Reply # 13707579 on 13499881

    Hi, and thanks to all of you!

    Now I got a bit more sleep, and the walls around me are not rolling anymore :)

    Yes, Ilvy did great - and I learnt a bit more about regatta sailing my boat since last year. Thanks a lot to Eric, who guided me significantly with his experience!

    Now, even the event producers couldn't ignore that yellow rig anymore: it was mentioned in a great picture at the prize giving ceremony, including a great foto. Some good junk rig advertisement!

    Some thoughts about Ilvy in the race:

    - I didn't change anything on the rig since last year. Just wasn't on my priority list, other things came in between.

    - Main difference: I really didn't point too high, and instead got her running a bit lower but faster. That helped a loooot! Thanks Eric, your explanations have been amazingly helpful.

    - I didn't reef as early as I would if I would go cruising. Especially in the upwind passages going west from Fynshoved to Lille Belt, I went with full sails in an 20-25kn wind. Doing that, I pinched a bit the sail (bit not the boat), so that mostly the forward part of the sail wasn't drawing. However, if a huge wave threatened to stop Ilvy, I just bear of some few degrees, got the full sail working, heeled a lot for a short moment and them jumped forward. I got the first reef in for a short while, but had the feeling that though she was obviously sailing more upright, she lacked the power to accelerate enough in between those choppy seas.

    - I completely unreefed downwind in 25-30kn of wind. My knees where shaking as she flew with 9.5kn maximum speed down the waves, 8.5kn constantly. Her hull speed is 6.2kn. At times, her complete bow up to the bow railing was buried in the water, pushing a lot of water over deck and into the cockpit. In my head I estimated the cost and time to replace a broken mast more than once. But everything held up. Now I can't stop thinking of doing this kind of overpowered junk rig sailing on a light scow-bow boat...

    - The high winds helped for Ilvy's amazing placement: other boats had to be more precarious with reefing, whereas I knew I could reef anytime in seconds and thus didn't need to reef in advance. Also the high winds made those other boats, even the very fast ones, to not be able to point as high as in flat seas - I think that's one of the reasons why Ilvy could match their angle to the wind.

    - Even in the low winds and flat seas in the Lille Belt she performed amazingly well. That'd due to one thing I discovered this summer: If I used my bare hands to pull in the sheets upwind, I just couldn't get that high up to the wind. However, if during a tack I pulled a lot more on the depowered sheet to close the sail even more, I got beautiful tacking angles. However, doing it this way bends the mast quite aft. Then I experimented with a (temporary) sheet traveller, which pulls the sheeting point to most windward without pulling on the sheet itself. That way, the sail got closed more, but without pulling it aft. I know the saying "don't oversheet a junk rig", but it worked really well. Of course, just like with those high tech bermudan rigs, if you sail that much close hauled upwind, you have to be very careful at the helm - and it is impossible in waves. My conclusion from that: if you want the modern junk rig to point higher (if not flat cut), pull the sail more in. We might be giving away a lot of degrees upwind by not using winches for the last few cm of sheets. That's totally fine for cruising, but an interesting finding for racing. Also the traveller, which kind of works in reverse to the bermudan traveller: nothing for cruising, but interesting for racing.


    - From 50 boats starting in Ilvy's group "Mini", only 23 past the finish line. Absolutely understandable, that people aborted! It was harsh. However, with her junk rig, I never, not even once, felt unsafe on Ilvy. Not in those choppy waves, not in winds gusting into the thirties when upwind or any other course. It is so amazingly safe and (relatively) comfortable to sail her, so easy to reef and sailhandle. The only difference from sailing in 10kn to sailing in 30kn is the noise of the wind and the waveheight - seasickness included. But concerning the actual sailing, it feels just the same. Amazing! I take it on the junk rig, that I never considered aborting, though a lot around me did that. I would have, too, with a bermudan rig. Definitely!


    So much for now.

    Thanks again,

    Paul

  • 20 Sep 2026 11:02
    Reply # 13707203 on 13499881
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Bonjour

    Paul and Ilvy made a brilliant race both in terms of time and ranking. 

    I went through the race tracking :

    https://live.tractrac.com/viewer/index.html?target=https://live.tractrac.com/events/event_20260916_Silverrudd/races/ed9479c0-94cc-013f-73e7-04421a259aad.json

    Ilvy (N°30 in the mini class) didn't overclass the others in the downwind first part of the race, probably because it was rather windy. 

    During the headwind part Ilvy was doing as well and perhaps a bit better than the bermudian boats both in terms of speed and course. She passed two boats in the narrow part in the west of the Island. 

    In the last part downwind she overpass the other boats but it didn't impact much in the ranking as there was a gap between Ilvy and the boat ahead.

    Congratulation Paul !

    Eric

  • 19 Sep 2026 21:16
    Reply # 13706283 on 13499881

    Well done Paul and Ilvy.  You sound to have sailed a fine race and are a great ambassador for junk rig.You must have felt very pleased with yourselves, outsailing the other Maxis!

  • 19 Sep 2026 20:13
    Reply # 13706237 on 13499881

    Indeed! But that should only make the astonishment of junk-rig opponents all the greater.

    Cheers !

    Last modified: 19 Sep 2026 20:14 | Anonymous member
  • 19 Sep 2026 19:07
    Reply # 13706162 on 13706118
    Anonymous member (Administrator)
    Jan wrote:
    David wrote:

    Yes, I noticed that Ilvy was pointing as high as the fleet on the windward leg. 

    I don't think I'm mistaken in saying that Paul was sailing mostly on a port tack—the "bad tack"—at the time; I believe only the finish was on a starboard tack, though on a downwind course.

    Well, now I have sailed quite a few junks during the last 36 years, and I still struggle with deciding which tack is the bad one. I must be a slow learner...

    Cheers -  an cheers to Paul,
    Arne
    Last modified: 20 Sep 2026 13:01 | Anonymous member (Administrator)
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