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Wanted - Junk rigged boat ~30' LOA

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  • 21 Mar 2011 11:49
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     Is anyone selling, or know of anyone selling, a junk rigged boat around 30' length, preferably within UK, or maybe northern France?  Looking to buy my first boat, aiming eventually to sail mainly single-handed around UK waters and to Europe, maybe even to Canaries, etc.  Bilge keel is attractive, although any format considered.  Any suggestions gratefully received.

    Regards,

    Roy Denton.
  • 21 Mar 2011 21:44
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    Roy,

    I know you were interested in China Moon. Did the deal fall through?
  • 21 Mar 2011 22:13
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    Have you considered buying a standard boat and converting? It's no big deal, you'd gain really useful experience and you will get all the support you need from the guys (and gulls) here on this forum.
  • 21 Mar 2011 23:58
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    Hi Paul

    China Girl needs a fair bit of work to reinstate the interior accommodation as well as the outside of the hull.  I was happy to take that on, but felt the price needed to come down further than the owner was willing, so I am back in the market.

    Converting an existing rig would be exciting, but as my first boat I would find that a bit daunting.  Not only that I'm keen to get sailing experience sooner rather than later (having left it later in life to start sailing in the first place).  China Girl would have allowed that - the interior work could have been tackled piecemeal once the hull was done and in the water - not sure how easy or quick a re-rig would be, especially as I live well inland, remote from where the boat would be moored, and from sources of materials.  Also my funds aren't limitless (whose are?) so it is a balance between condition and price.  The cost of a new rig would limit what I could spend on a boat up front, which would then perhaps constrain me to a boat in poorer condition, needing more expenditure in other directions.

    Thanks for the offer of assistance - I kinda knew that would be available from previous traffic on here, but it's good to have it confirmed.

    Regards,  Roy.
  • 22 Mar 2011 19:18
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    Sorry to hear that China Girl has fallen through...  Yon owner must be a wee bit daft not to compromise with you: selling a scruffy boat in a time of depression is never going to be easy.

    I could suggest you start your cruising by coming down to New Zealand, which would get you well on your way!  I have a friend here selling a 'hermaphrodite' junk (stays and jibs) for NZ$26,000 about 12,000 quid - certainly very affordable.  Only 26 ft but he's been up to the islands (as we call it: Tonga, Vanua'atu, etc) several times.

    I feel you may hesitate about this so hope that maybe Robin will be able to find you what you are looking for.  Why don't you contact Pete and ask him when 'Pelican' will be for sale - she may be affordable.  A bit on the large side but I'm sure she'll be well set up.
  • 22 Mar 2011 19:52
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    Hi Annie,

    Thanks for the thoughts.  I want to be careful what I say on here, as the seller is a JRA member, although I don't think he accesses this site, but people might know him.  We were within £300 of a deal, but I couldn't justify spending any more in view of the further spending on renovation.

    I am tempted by the idea of starting in NZ, but the oncost of the trip might be prohibitive!

    Pelican may be a little large for me, and a quick scan on Google shows Freedom 33 boats for sale in the £35k region, which would be too much.  I'll send Pete an email to sound him out.
  • 31 Mar 2011 22:29
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    Hi Roy

    My old boat's for sale - Sunbird 32 schooner junk 'Matanie'. The guy bought here off me in Portimao, Portugal and moved her to Almerimar, Mediterranean Spain. Doesn't look as if he's done much to her, and she's way overpriced. Be happy to privately advise what he paid for her. The link is:

    Brian Kerslake
    Freedom 39 Pilothouse Schooner 'Paradox'
    Portland Marina, Dorset, UK
    Slowly converting to junk schooner.
  • 01 Apr 2011 00:30
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    Hi Brian

    Thanks for the link - I'll have a look and email you direct.

    Roy.
  • 28 Apr 2011 15:31
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    Hi Roy,  I've just taken advantage of a remarkable opportunity and bought a 32ft junk schooner. My junk rigged Kingfisher 26 Antares is therefore for sale. Maybe not quite the 30ft you'd like, but she's a capable little ship and has been across the Atlantic and south of the equator ( under her old bermudan rig).

    I've recently converted her to junk with a carbon mast, 380 sq ft sail with cambered panels following Arne's ideas almost to the letter (the sail is blue!). She is fast, weatherly, well balanced and a joy to handle. In short, a much better ship than she was before.

    She's lying in Chichester harbour - come for a sail.

    Regards, Asmat.

    PS I'd like to show a picture but don't have any decent ones yet and haven't a clue how to send them to the website.
  • 28 Apr 2011 22:03
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    Hi Roy. These might be too small. (You don't say what typical equipage you might have.) But for pottering your coasts? The prices and appointments sure sound reasonable.


    'Ho Choi' 1982 Newbridge Corromandel

    21.9 ft junk rigged boat
    3yr old 4 stroke 5hp mariner, radio, gps, anchors and all usual equipment.
    Health reasons for selling.
    Chance of mooring at Burntisland S.C.
    Afloat 24hrs a day
    .
    £4,000

    Afloat at Burntisland Sailing Club - Burntisland harbour
    Contact Alistair Berry 01592 890180
    alistair.berry2@virgin.net

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    22ft Caravelle or Caravela

    "Raffles" 23ft Caravelle or Caravela
    Junk rig sail (colourful & in good order)
    Stub & Swing lifting keel
    4 wheel trailer
    Evinrude 7.5hp longshaft outboard on stainless steel transom mounted folding bracket. Mast gaiter replaced
    Navigation lights
    Compass
    Cooker
    Bilge pump
    Depth and log (recent)
    Anchor, Warps, Fenders, etc. Untidy inside but the rest looks good.
    £2,750 GBP
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    Hope this helps.
    "MD!"
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