Split Junk rig sailmakers

  • 22 Jan 2021 23:19
    Reply # 9944279 on 9870645

    If potential Covid-related.delays put you off going international, you could take a leaf out of Rob and Maren Princes's book.  They cut all the panels, marked them clearly and then took them along to a lady who is a professional at sewing - I think specialising in covering furniture,  but could be wrong there.

    Not being a sail maker and having no preconceptions,  she followed instructions and did a great job.  Of course, lofting, cutting etc is at least half of the project, but it would save you SOME time.

  • 22 Jan 2021 00:55
    Reply # 9910510 on 9870645
    Anonymous wrote:

    Hi all,

       I have searched the forums for any information on current sailmakers capable of building a Split Junk Rig to no avail.

       Is anyone aware of a sailmaker capable of building a split junk rig sail?

    Thanks for any input

    Glen

    I build junk sails for anyone who wants them. I'm based in New Zealand but I've an international clientele. Feel free to contact me.
  • 21 Jan 2021 14:51
    Reply # 9894414 on 9870645

    Hi Glen, 

    In the past there have been problems with the helm balance of the Kingfisher 26 with the junk rig, which have been highlighted when converting from flat to cambered sails. The rudder of the junk rigged version appears to have been altered from the original Bermudan version to correct handling problems, and it would appear that these still leave a lot to be desired.

    If you e-mail me I might be able to shine some light on the background to the problems, and help with the split rig.

    Cheers, Slieve.


  • 21 Jan 2021 10:09
    Reply # 9887006 on 9870645

    Thanks Paul and Slieve, that is what I was afraid of. My problem right now is one of time as I have a lot on my plate. I want to build a split rig for my Kingfisher 26 to increase her wind ward performance and I'm thinking I could get her more balanced as well. She has more weather helm than I'm used to. I'll just have to set aside the time to put one together.

    Cheers 

    Last modified: 21 Jan 2021 10:10 | Anonymous member
  • 17 Jan 2021 22:58
    Reply # 9871628 on 9870645

    Hi Glen,

    The is no reason why any competent sailmaker should not make a successful split junk rig if they can accept and follow detailed instructions. Note that I have underlined two words in the first sentence.

    The Mark 1 rig for Edward Hooper's Amiina were built by his local sailmaker, but I did provide him with very detailed instructions and offsets for every panel shape. It was well made though there were a few slight errors where he had not followed the exact dimensions. That rig was just too big for the hull, our mistake, so when it came to a smaller Mark 2 rig I built it myself with some help from Edward as that seemed easier than writing the detailed specification, and certainly cheaper as Edward only had to pay for discounted materials.

    As Arne pointed out many years ago, sailmakers do not readily accept the cambers we junkies use as they are outside the accepted Bermudan range. Modern Bermudan sails are computer drawn and cut so sailmakers really only stick and sew them together. It is difficult to persuade them to think outside their range of experience.

    No sailmaker would be prepared to read through all my draft notes, and I'm afraid that the new simplified 'painting by numbers' version is not at the top of my 'to do' pile.

    I suppose the answer to your question depends on how good a set of instructions you can provide for the sailmaker/ seamstress to sew, and when you do it is probably easier to do it yourself. Once you have had a little practice there is nothing really difficult in building a rig, and it is an interesting exercise.

    My email address is in my profile if you want more information.

    Cheers, Slieve.


    Last modified: 18 Jan 2021 08:49 | Anonymous member
  • 17 Jan 2021 20:50
    Reply # 9871284 on 9870645

    Hi Glen,

    I made a 30 sq metre SJR sail for my boat last year and am delighted with it, how big a sail are you contemplating?

    My email is in my profile if you’d like to discuss.

  • 17 Jan 2021 14:57
    Message # 9870645

    Hi all,

       I have searched the forums for any information on current sailmakers capable of building a Split Junk Rig to no avail.

       Is anyone aware of a sailmaker capable of building a split junk rig sail?

    Thanks for any input

    Glen

       " ...there is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as simply messing about in junk-rigged boats" 
                                                               - the Chinese Water Rat

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