Another write up by Arne Kverneland

  • 18 Aug 2014 03:06
    Reply # 3076339 on 869421
    Yes, 'The myth of the bad tack is another example of junk rig not doing what you would expect.  I spoke to someone about a year ago, who has sailed on truly traditonally-rigged square riggers and he explained it all to me.  Sadly, while it all made perfect sense at the time, I find I can't explain it as he did.  That's the trouble with being a bear of very little brain :-(
  • 17 Aug 2014 21:58
    Reply # 3076218 on 3076211
    Anonymous member (Administrator)
    Edward Hooper wrote:

    I love your note on "The myth of the bad tack".

    World it be OK to send it to David Harding?


    Be my guest, Edward   :-) ...

     

  • 17 Aug 2014 21:04
    Reply # 3076211 on 869421
    Deleted user

    I love your note on "The myth of the bad tack".

    World it be OK to send it to David Harding?

  • 17 Aug 2014 20:15
    Reply # 3076194 on 869421
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    On which tack is the JR fastest to windward?

    More often than not, it seems to be taken for granted that the sail will pull better to windward when it can fly undistorted on the leeside of the mast.

    But is that so? If you go to “my” page and have a look at the file “The Myth of the Bad Tack” (or just try this link),  you can see my view on this.

    Not that important  -  but maybe interesting for the nerd-type junkies...

    Cheers, Arne


    PS: What triggered me to produce this little write-up was David Harding’s statement in his article in the Sep 2014 issue of PBO, about junk rig vs Bermudan.

     

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  • 06 Jul 2014 21:57
    Reply # 3038765 on 869421
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    I suggest we jump to the "Ingeborg..." topic ...

     

    Arne 

  • 03 Jul 2014 10:47
    Reply # 3037080 on 869421

    Told you so :-D! 

    Now what we need is for you and Peter to get together, once you have fitted your junk rig, and sail against one another.  That would be interesting.

    Good for you, Arne.  Nice to know you can't resist temptation.

  • 26 Jun 2014 22:05
    Reply # 3032436 on 3032432
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    Peter Scandling wrote:

    Arne

    Beautiful new boat.  Lucky you.  Can't wait to see her with a junk rig.

    have fun

    Peter 


    Thanks Peter  -  our boats are cousins!

    Good luck with your first sail!

    Arne

     

  • 26 Jun 2014 22:02
    Reply # 3032432 on 869421

    Arne

    Beautiful new boat.  Lucky you.  Can't wait to see her with a junk rig.

    have fun

    Peter 

  • 26 Jun 2014 21:06
    Reply # 3032379 on 1556692
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    Annie Hill wrote:
    Arne Kverneland wrote:I am unsure if Miss  Sørensen will be my last boat, or not. It depends if I can upgrade her a bit for cruising. The alternative is to find a keel boat in the 1.5ton range, maybe a H-boat. That boat has the looks, the seaworthiness and the speed. I must decide this summer as I can't hold (and pay for) a second berth for longer.
    Arne: there isn't a cat in hell's chance that this young lady will be your last boat.  You are far too curious and inventive for such fidelity!  Can you not sublet your berth until something else takes your fancy?

    Er...
    actually, two days ago a new boat arrived in berth D23. It is a 26’ Marieholm IF. I simply thought that she deserved me
      -  and in due course, a new rig  -  surprise, surprise...

    Arne

    PS: I will soon open a new topic on her, named “Ingeborg, Arne’s Marieholm IF”


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  • 12 Jun 2014 08:38
    Reply # 3005216 on 869421
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Annie

    The force I need to adjust the THP is quite light, about the same, or a bit lighter than the pull in the (3-part) halyard  -  which certainly isn’t heavy either. This is not only due to the size of the sail, but also to the fact that the halyard is attached a bit aft of the middle of the yard. This way the yard is peaked up more by the halyard and this will unload the THP and the yard hauling parrel.

    The big difference between the H-M sail and a fanned sail is that the H-M sail is just a big parallelogram below batten 2 or 3 (counted from top), so once the position of the top section is set, the lower part will follow on.  Therefore, there will be less need for HK-parrels or other means to hold the position.

    If one takes a look at photos of the ultra-fanned  sails from Hong Kong, one will see that the HK-parrels are working  very hard and that all those stout battens are bending upwards.

    Passing the THP half around Frøken Sørensen's  slippery aluminium mast didn’t add any noticeable friction.

    Cheers, Arne...

    ..must go and assist with slipping Johanna...

     

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