Jordan Series Drogues, other Drogues, and Sea Anchors

  • 20 May 2011 13:04
    Reply # 595930 on 595752
    Deleted user
    Gary King wrote:I had a good read about the Jordan series drogue and am suitably impressed.
    I wonder - does the line have to be double braid? I happen have 200m of 5/8"  3 strand rope (silver staple) in the shed. Does anyone know if there is an issue using this kind of rope?

    Somewhere among those pages, it was mentioned that 3-strand can unravel under extreme loads.  I also remember not using "cheap" double braid. (It could have been on that jordanseriesdrogue.pdf) 
  • 20 May 2011 06:22
    Reply # 595752 on 592701
    Deleted user
    I had a good read about the Jordan series drogue and am suitably impressed.
    I wonder - does the line have to be double braid? I happen have 200m of 5/8"  3 strand rope (silver staple) in the shed. Does anyone know if there is an issue using this kind of rope?
  • 20 May 2011 02:07
    Reply # 595527 on 592701
    Well, maybe David, but I don't think I fancy it in an exposed anchorage or with indifferent weather.  If you started dragging you'd have a load of fun and games getting it back to the windlass with the boat broad side on in F9 or 10.  You couldn't just chuck over No 2, either.    And if the wind suddenly shifts, you are not only on a lee shore, but bows to that lee shore in a situation that might make it impossible to cut and run.

    I'm all for innovation, but traditional anchoring techniques have been honed by knarly-knuckled mariners from centuries of engineless sailing.  And now that we have engines, I'd rather keep my anchor gear away from the prop, thank you.  I appreciate the point about modern boats misbehaving at anchor, compared with old hookers, but would rather get round that by having two anchors well apart off the bow than a bridle at the stern.  Just call me a Luddite when it comes to anchoring.

    At sea - yes, I'd like to be tethered from the stern.  I do recall having a strenuous argument - sorry, discussion, about just that subject on one occasion.  I lost, of course :-).
     


  • 20 May 2011 00:00
    Reply # 595448 on 595119
    Jonathan Snodgrass wrote:Anchor from the bridle?   jds

    Yes, I know it sounds weird, but it works. There's a lot about it in the link I quoted. I guess that Scandinavian and Mediterranean boats that are already fitted out with a stern anchor can just use that, but otherwise, using a bridle as a snubber attached to a chain cable seems to be the way.
  • 19 May 2011 16:30
    Reply # 595119 on 592701
    Anchor from the bridle?   jds
  • 19 May 2011 00:57
    Reply # 594625 on 592701
    I've just re-read this article:
    http://www.jordanseriesdrogue.com/pdf/JordanSeriesDrogue.pdf
    and came to a very interesting bit right at the end, that had slipped from my memory. that is, that a boat is very much more stable when anchored to the seabed from a stern bridle (not only to a series drogue), and the veering about, and therefore the forces on the anchor/mooring and cable are greatly reduced, and the comfort level aboard is greatly increased.
    I've tried this as an experiment in moderate conditions, and found it to be true. Now  I must try to remember to do it next time I'm anchored in a strong blow.
  • 18 May 2011 21:49
    Reply # 594534 on 592701
    Thanks everyone! Timely info for us.
    Kurt
  • 18 May 2011 14:51
    Reply # 594163 on 594037
    Deleted user
    simon kibblewhite wrote:

    Hi

    I'll have some drogue info/links to you for the weekend so that you can 'light your fire'!

    Thanks, she is a nice boat and a joy to sail........mostly!

      

    simon


    Here's something I dug up last night, simon...

    "Drag devices: Sea anchors & drogues” by Cary Deringer appearing in the Jan/Feb 2002 issue of Good Old Boat.


  • 18 May 2011 07:25
    Reply # 594037 on 592701
    Deleted user

    Hi

    I'll have some drogue info/links to you for the weekend so that you can 'light your fire'!

    Thanks, she is a nice boat and a joy to sail........mostly!

      

    simon

       " ...there is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as simply messing about in junk-rigged boats" 
                                                               - the Chinese Water Rat

                                                              Site contents © the Junk Rig Association and/or individual authors

Powered by Wild Apricot Membership Software