How much to convert this one to a Junk Rigged sailboat ?

  • 05 Mar 2018 02:44
    Reply # 5889063 on 5886087

    Hi Raymond,

    have you thought of a Golden Hind? There are I believe two versions, 26 and 31 1/2 feet long. They are a well traveled design and very seaworthy, you see them all over the world voyaging quite successfully. They are plywood or fiberglass construction and have a long shallow central keel with steel plate bilge keels that allow them to dry out upright. They would convert well to junk rig.

    All the best, David.

    Just had a look on the internet and there is one for sale in Bangor, Wales at 7950 pounds, one in Gibraltar for 12,000 pounds and one in Auckland, New Zealand for $11,000 NZ. All have fiberglass hulls with plywood decks and are 31 foot six inches long. There are a lot of them about and David Tyler had an Eventide once, a near sister by the same designer, Maurice Griffiths. I have not looked very thoroughly but there seem to be quite a few for sale out there at reasonable prices.

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  • 04 Mar 2018 22:37
    Reply # 5888783 on 5886087
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    Super thank you Eric for this information. Raymond
  • 04 Mar 2018 15:49
    Reply # 5888298 on 5886087

    Bonjour

    An "Ecume des Mer" (9m)  has been converted to junk in the south of France (a bit more on Mediteranean area).

    There is a short thread on VoilesAlternatives (in French):

    http://www.voiles-alternatives.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=388

    http://www.voiles-alternatives.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=391

    and a blog (in French) : http://gitandesmers.unblog.fr/

    He bought Bamboos for the mast and battens in south-west of France (Bambouseraie du Gers). The mast is bamboo reinforced by carbon epoxy.

    Eric

  • 03 Mar 2018 23:17
    Reply # 5887769 on 5886087
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    Sorry David Tylor, I meant 15000 of course. Otherwhise I would already have bought it !

    And thank you David Webb, I did not think about just using a tree for a wooden mast like that.  Even for 2000 euros, that would be an interesting project and I could always sell the old rigging.

    Would anyone know about any UK bilge keeler sailboat in wood ?

    otherwhise I was looking at the westerly 26 since I really like the bilge keel

    Bilge keelers are great for little draft and all the advantages when the ocean disappears !

  • 03 Mar 2018 09:41
    Reply # 5887301 on 5886087
    Raymond Liljeros wrote:

    Would anyone know how much I am looking at to convert this one with a Junk Rig ?

    And in doing so I suppose the old rig could be sold also.

    It is for sale for 1500 euros, recently renovated, including engine.

    Sure, it is not new, 1960, but it will sail. 

    8.50m (27.89 pieds)

    2.55m (8.37 pieds)

    Are you sure about the price, Raymond? I found two listings for this boat:
    http://www.annoncesbateau.com/voilier/occasion-annonce-831418.html  

    http://www.annoncesbateau.com/voilier/occasion-annonce-827368.html

    The first at 15,000, the second at 1,500. I think 15,000 is the right price, and the other is a mistake. 

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  • 03 Mar 2018 03:41
    Reply # 5886130 on 5886087
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    What a lovely looking boat, looks like a real bargain at that price.

    I will leave it to others to comment on the cost of conversion (I am doing a similar size conversion here in New Zealand, but prices and materials available here will probably not apply. And, of course, it depends how much you want to do yourself.)

    What I would like (perhaps start a new thread) is someone to explain how these legs work - in the picture of it in the shed the lines are off, and it looks as though they are bolted to the hull. You don't see legs much in New Zealand (in fact I have never seen legs used) but I know they are common in the UK. Can someone tell me if there is a thread on legs, or please start one with a basic run down on whats required? I rather fancy making a pair, if it is practical.

    Sorry to bust in on your thread. The boat looks like a real beauty, a bit Scandinavian look - I am sure it will provoke plenty of response regarding potential junk conversion. 

  • 03 Mar 2018 03:37
    Reply # 5886129 on 5886087

    Hi Raymond,

    lovely boat!!

     It all depends on how refined you want to be with the rig. I would suggest that going cheap and experimenting as you go may be the best way for you to go. I think, by your profile, you live in the south of France. There are extensive pine forests in the area (if my memory serves me from 45 years ago when I was there!) A little investigation may find a suitable log for a mast at a very reasonable price or even free, and the boat should easily handle a solid mast. Yard boom and battens can be made from lumberyard timber at very little cost and a sail made from blue or white polytarp will cost just a couple of hundred euros, all up cost probably less than 1,000.00 euros. If you go with a professionally made sail, aluminium spars and battens and new blocks etc for the rigging you would end up with no change from 10,000.00 euros. Yes there is quite a lot of work in doing it yourself but you would learn a huge amount about your boat and rig and you could upgrade as you go and the money allows. You would also be sailing and learning how the junk rig handles instead of just reading about it.

    All the best with the project, David.

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  • 03 Mar 2018 01:16
    Message # 5886087
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    Would anyone know how much I am looking at to convert this one with a Junk Rig ?

    And in doing so I suppose the old rig could be sold also.

    It is for sale for 1500 euros, recently renovated, including engine.

    Sure, it is not new, 1960, but it will sail. 

    8.50m (27.89 pieds)

    2.55m (8.37 pieds)

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