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Junk-rigged Hurley 20?

  • 22 Mar 2017 07:27
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    Reply # 4681983 on 4677940
    Anonymous member

    Thanks, eveyone. I'll keep cool (or try to) and see the boat a bit later in the spring, when my Joe 17 conversion is ready, and see how I feel then.
  • 22 Mar 2017 05:01
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    I sailed a Hurley 20 for years, but not as a junk rigged boat.  It is not the fastest boat out there, but it is a sturdy reliable little boat with more space than many in its llength.  At one point we cruised with two adults, two children and a standard poodle.  We often were out sailing when the others turned back because the conditions were too blustery.  The twin keels are brilliant for utilising the shallow water in an anchorage where the other yachts dare not tread.  The twin keels also work well to dampen roll and make her feel like a bit bigger boat.  At least a couple have crossed the Atlantic.

    This isn't meant to encourage you to add one to many projects to the list, but I still have a lot of affection for our old Hurley and had to comment.  If you do get her PM me, I have a whole folder on my hard drive related to the H20.  The deck on the H20 isn't cored, so it would probably be well served to add a fairly thick plate as part of the mast partners to reinforce the deck.
  • 21 Mar 2017 21:15
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    Jami Jokinen wrote:However, I'm a bit worried if it would work junk-rigged.
    Why shouldn't it? is more the question.  I can't remember hearing of a single boat that has been correctly converted to junk rig and been a disappointment.  And surely a Hurley 20 is not that different from a Kingfisher 20?  As I recall, they were based on Silhouettes, which were fine little boats and closely related to Caprices, one of which circumnavigated.  But they are probably not particularly fast, by today's standards.

    But Arne is (of course) correct.  Finish the one you're working on and go and sail her first.  Apart from anything else, you'll have chance to learn a lot about JR and may want to do it slightly differently next time.


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  • 21 Mar 2017 14:43
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    I agree with you, Arne, fully! And I promise I won't let this happen :)

    The reason for this is an opportunity for a very, very, very cheap Hurley 20. The plan/over-estimated daydream is possibly to buy the boat and let it stay at least until autumn.

    My long-time plan is a 20-23 footer, offshore-capable (well, if you can call sailing in the Baltic offshore-sailing at all) JR boat. H20 would fit the category as it is a strong, almos 50% ballast-ratio boat. However, I'm a bit worried if it would work junk-rigged.

    I am also looking at some cheap scandinavian boats, especially Hydra 20 and Marieholm Seacat 21, which are significantly faster boats.
  • 21 Mar 2017 11:45
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    Jami

    Warning

    Importing a new project before the present one is operational has put may wannabe boatmen in trouble. Before they know it, they find themselves jumping from one half-finished project to the next, and the next...

    I strongly recommend that you focus on your first boat, finish it, go sailing in it, and gain valuable experience in it. After a season or two, you will have a much more educated view on how the next boat should be. Then, most probably, you will find the Hurley 20’s performance to be rather ‘non-sparkling’.

    The summer season is approaching rapidly, so now it is hurry-hurry time!

    Arne

    PS:
    My experience is that selling a good old boat with a fully operational and tidy JR is not difficult at all, so don’t worry about that.
  • 21 Mar 2017 08:21
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    Reply # 4679539 on 4677940
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    Thanks, PM sent.

    At first look it wouldn't seem impossible to be able to draw a very high aspect ratio sail (Arne's master) using the same 3000mm batten length as I'm using on on my Joe 17... this would even make it possible to use the same sail, if I only added maybe 2 more panels. This would make the conversion really easy!
  • 20 Mar 2017 20:22
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    David Tyler wrote:

     Why not try a PM to compare notes?

    In case you're not as social media savvy as David, PM means personal message.  (Via the dictionary of slang on Google).  It always meant post meridian or prime minister to me.  One lives and learns!
  • 20 Mar 2017 20:13
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    That one hasn't been converted yet - still Bermudan rig according to the profile.

    Still probably worth exchanging views with the owner, though.

    Chris
  • 20 Mar 2017 20:09
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    I see that we have one Hurley 20 showing up in our members' boats directory - search on Hurley and you'll find it. Why not try a PM to compare notes?
  • 20 Mar 2017 14:42
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    My first JR conversion (17ft trailer sailer) is still on its way, but it seems that I might get my hands on a bit bigger boat too. 

    I'm considering of purchasing a bilge-keeled Hurley 20 as a longer, full renovation project. 

    Has any of our members converted a H20 to JR, or heard of one?
    What do you think - would it be a hit or a miss, considering the quite wide body? 

    I know there are several junk-rigged H22's, but the 20-footer is to my eyes a very different boat.
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