Fiberglassing in an aluminum tabernacle?

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  • 13 Mar 2017 19:20
    Reply # 4664334 on 4663961
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    There will probably be others with a more expert view on this but based on my own experience it is very difficult to get a good bond with fibreglass to aluminium, or any type of metal, and I would not trust it as a long term solution to what you are trying to achieve. Use of epoxy and fibreglass seems to work best with timber and other composite products. 

    If I was going the route your are talking about I would ensure a very tight fit through the deck and with the tube/tabernacle bolted down via a deck flange and substantial bolts with a backing plate, and sealed with a modern goop such as Sikaflex which has the ability to not only give a very strong bond to the aluminium but also to adsorb any small movement.

    As an example of this I recently sealed down a composite bracket for a solar panel to the stern of Footprints using a silicon based windscreen sealant that I happened to have. I later decided I would change the position of the bracket. I took the bolts out then tried to pull the bracket off - no go. The bracket is there for the life of the boat unless I want to make a mess of my paint job, and probably destroy the bracket in trying to remove it. Now the bracket is held in place only with the sealant and no bolts.

    Last modified: 13 Mar 2017 19:28 | Deleted user
  • 13 Mar 2017 16:14
    Message # 4663961
    Deleted user

    I've pretty much decided to go with an aluminum tabernacle - I've got feelers out to multiple marine architects in the area to work up the design exactly. (I'm not at all confident of my ability to do that particular work myself).  If I don't go this route, it's because I can't get the thing designed up and manufactured for a reasonable sum.  One firm quoted me $4000 - $6000 for the design alone.  That was reduced to $2550 - $3400 when I explained that I don't want them analyzing the whole rig - just make me a box that'll hold the mast.  Still way too pricy.  Other conversations are in the works.

    Assuming I can get it done at an affordable price, though:

    I'd like to permanently, as in, never leaking and rock-solid attachment, install the tabernacle through the deck.  To my simple mind, that means a solid connection to the partners, then thickened epoxy fillets with biaxial glass tape running out on the deck maybe 6".  Just like tabbing in a bulkhead, only topsides.

    But... Am I asking for trouble over time with the heat cycles and tiny flex loading cycles?  A failure in the glass/epoxy to aluminum bond will let water into the hidden spaces and lead to undetectable corrosion.  Does this fall into the same category as, "Never glass in your chainplates?"  If so, how does the collective mind suggest I handle the tabernacle to deck seal?  Also - if corrosion in the deck area is concern, how the hell do I inspect that every few years?  Can't pull it out like I would a chainplate.

     

    Last modified: 13 Mar 2017 16:16 | Deleted user
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