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  • 18 Apr 2017 08:14
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    Reply # 4758189 on 4605796
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    Could work, Robert. The obvious place to put the mast, without affecting the accommodation too much, is through that athwartships bench at the forward end of the heads compartment. That's quite well forward, and so the sail would have to be of low AR. A long keeled boat is OK with a low AR sail, so I think it's worth your doing a design sketch to see if you can get a satisfactory placement of the the CE vs the CLA.
  • 17 Apr 2017 22:42
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    Reply # 4757463 on 4605796
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    Good Afternoon,

    I have been busy shopping on the internet today. I found this boat:

    http://www.kijiji.ca/v-sailboat/st-catharines/1980-bayfield-29/1252513197?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

    I have been looking at Bayfield and Bristol boats of this size and vintage for quite a while, waiting more or less for one in my price range that was in good shape. This one fits the bill. So if any of you have a moment and could comment on whether you think she is a viable candidate for conversion to Junk Rig, please let me know. There are several on the market here now, all similar to this one, not all as well done up. Here is a spec sheet:

    http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=964

    Many Thanks,

    Bob
  • 17 Apr 2017 13:29
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    Reply # 4756428 on 4605796
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    3 hours later update: Wow. He got an offer and took it. So ignore this one. 

    More soon perhaps, I am looking in earnest now.

    Good Morning All,

    Well it seems I may be making a move sooner than I thought. A friend sent me the link to this boat. I have talked with the owner and we may be able to come to terms.

    So, if anyone has a moment and has any opinions on whether this one might be a candidate for conversion or not, I would appreciate it. She has need of new rigging according to the survey, so my thought was to go ahead and convert instead.

    https://keys.craigslist.org/boa/6082507124.html

    http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=1162

    Thanks.

    Last modified: 17 Apr 2017 17:24 | Deleted user
  • 06 Apr 2017 13:50
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    Reply # 4719422 on 4605796
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    Hi Arne,

    Thank you for the quick and detailed response.

    I will plan on taking a good look at what would need to be removed or modified to construct a mast step under the aft end of the foredeck. I am concerned there may be a tank or some other system in that location.

    The keel is a "wing keel". I would really like to find something with a long fin and a balanced skeg-hung rudder. But something has to give on my "wish list" if I am actually going to get a new (old) boat soon.

    I am surprised that having the mast too far forward would be a problem. Most of the conversions I have seen on this site have the mast moved significantly further forward compared to the previous BR rig.

    My new (old) copy of PJR just came on Monday and I am working my way through from front to back. Hopefully I will understand the COE of the hull and sails better by the end of this week.

    Thanks again,

    Scott.

    Last modified: 06 Apr 2017 13:56 | Anonymous member
  • 06 Apr 2017 12:30
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    Reply # 4719065 on 4605796
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    Scott,

    When looking for a boat to buy, I always try to check if there is an easy way to step the mast. At first glance on the Pearson 27 (twin keels?) it looks as if the simplest way is to step it at the aft end of the foredeck. That should bring the mast step into the room forward of the settees. This mast position may call for a fairly broad sail to bring the CE far enough aft, but I would not have been put off by that. The Pearson 27 has a big rudder fitted all the way aft on the transom. This should ensure good control as the boat heels or when running downwind.

    I suggest you check the web to find how the boat type handles under Bermuda rig. This could be helpful when deciding where the junkrig should sit and how big the sail should be.

    Good luck!

    Arne
  • 05 Apr 2017 22:31
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    Reply # 4718004 on 4605796
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    Hello All,

    I hope adding to this topic is the right place for my question. If not please let me know.

    We will be taking a serious look at Pearson 27 for sale this weekend. If anyone has an opinion on why this boat cannot be converted to a junk rig or why this IS a good candidate I would really like to hear from you.

    Do you think this boat can be converted successfully?

    Pearson 27 Sailboatdata:

    http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=799

    Scott.


    Last modified: 05 Apr 2017 22:32 | Anonymous member
  • 16 Feb 2017 15:21
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    Reply # 4612349 on 4605796
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    Thank you all very much. Most encouraging! So as not to waste any person's time on flights of fancy, I will post as requested pictures and drawings when I find boats I am serious about. This will not happen until next year when I return to the U.S. and can look at them in person. I have posed the question at a time when I am just beginning to gather information. I am essentially window shopping, and needed to know what if anything to rule out.  I will continue to read and research as much as I can. I will also be looking at boats that are already junk rigged, though they might be overseas and would thus need to be delivered to the U.S. I am committed to living here in Costa Rica thru the end of 2017. This project will begin in earnest when I return to the U.S. in 2018.  
  • 13 Feb 2017 08:08
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    Reply # 4606299 on 4605796
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    Have look at http://www.junkrigassociation.org/archive and in particular the list of boats that have been converted, on JRA Fact Sheet 5. Its latest incarnation as an XLS spreadsheet lists over 300 designs, so you can probably find something similar to the type you have in mind.
  • 13 Feb 2017 01:23
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    Reply # 4605944 on 4605796
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    Bob, I'm no expert and haven't converted anything but the boats I'm attracted to are in the size range you've mentioned. There are Vertues, Folkboats, Kingfishers, Contessas and a host more plying the seas after a successful conversion. The wonderful array of boats in the Jester Challenge, Annie's SibLim (under construction) are further examples of the type, and I feel as Graham does: there may be reasons why a particular boat doesn't warrant a conversion (layout below decks or existing classic rig), but the vast array of successful conversions suggests that there are solutions to any problems a particular boat may present. 

    I'm sure that you'd find enough support from the likes of Arne, David and others who have made a plethora of junk rigs for a wide range of hulls to be confident that a well-executed conversion would be a success. 

    Go for it! :-)

    Last modified: 13 Feb 2017 01:25 | Deleted user
  • 12 Feb 2017 22:11
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    Reply # 4605816 on 4605796
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    Generally speaking, if it is a sailing boat, then it can be propelled by any sort of sailing rig, so the answer is a qualified yes.  There may be some reasons why a particular boat will be less suitable than others, mostly due to layout etc, (mast placed in the only suitable bunk area perhaps).  Best thing to do is locate a boat you like, get some photos, or better yet drawings of it, and post them here.  You'll get lots of practical advice then.  However, I'd wager a bet that if you find a boat that has the criteria you seek, converting it to junk rig will be reasonably straightforward.
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