Weaverbird - the refit

  • 08 Jul 2016 19:37
    Reply # 4120244 on 3994048
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    Ahh, the joys of outboards and infernal combustion engines.  If only someone made a suitcase-sized nuclear fusion reactor.....  Other than draining the carb whenever the motor is sitting for more than a week, always buying the highest octane fuel you can and always adding fuel preservative if the fuel won't be completely used in a few weeks, I don't have anything else helpful to offer.

    On the pramhood-dodger front, an idea worth considering might be a combined hood/soft garage.  The Pardey's have an example of this in their "Get Ready to Cross Oceans" DVD.  Basically, it is a cloth cover which extends to the front of the sliding hatch rails and attaches to the cabin top, thus water intrusion is blocked just as with a hard garage.  The aft end is nothing more than a hoop that is attached to hinged arms.  One end of the arm attaches 80% up the hoop, the other attaches to the cabin top about 12-18" in front of the companionway opening.  A bit of bungee attached just below the articulation of the hinge on one end and near the aft end of the companionway on the other end pulls the hoop upwards, but also allows you to push it down easily to enter the companionway or to look forward with nothing in the way.  A full description is in the video starting at 23:50.  I could post a frame grab from the video if that is in line with copyright allowances (does anyone know this?).

    I also wonder if it might be possible to combine two ideas.  You could have a Hasler-style pramhood mounted on the sliding hatch, but mount a soft-garage so it accordioned  as you slide the hatch forward?

  • 07 Jul 2016 14:08
    Reply # 4118283 on 3994048

    There was a small "whoo-hoo" moment with Weaverbird yesterday. At 1400, I brought her round to the hard part of the beach at Ravenglass so that a HIAB could drop the mast in. Only a ten minute job, but one that's hard to do safely and quickly without a crane. I poured polyurethane at the heel, but only put in some temporary wedges at the partners while I make a final decision on wedges vs polyurethane. Could go either way.

    Off again on the next HW - at 0200, with fresh onshore breeze and pouring rain to make it more interesting. To make it more interesting still, I've bought a Bison 62lb thrust electric outboard, hoping that I can live with it rather more comfortably than with a petrol outboard. I'd intended to get the mast put in last Friday, but the brand-new Suzuki 2.5 that came with the boat wouldn't start. Maybe only needs a new plug, but if it needs a new plug after only 3 hours of running, I don't find that too impressive. However, the electric outboard may not be much better. It only just managed to get me off the beach after some bumping and grinding, in the fresh breeze and with the flood tide making things awkward. At least it demonstrated that the Hunter Duette is strongly built.

    So, off the beach at 0200, at new moon and with a cloudy night, and I couldn't spot my mooring buoy, of course. Had to anchor and wait for dawn twilight and a bit of ebb against the fresh breeze to make it safe enough to go close to the railway embankment, where my mooring lies, with a woefully underpowered boat. All very nerve-wracking. Declared today a day of rest.

  • 19 May 2016 18:10
    Reply # 4029265 on 3994048
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    I've had similar ideas for Fantail. The folded washboards/bridge deck makes a good seat for watch keeping with good visibility in all directions. I haven't yet figured out how to incorporate a pram hood/mini dodger/shelter. I'll keep an eye on your progress for ideas.
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  • 19 May 2016 08:51
    Reply # 4027912 on 3994048

    Currently, there's the usual form of large sprayhood, as shown in this recent photo and the hatch runners are quite well designed so as to keep out spray.

    This will have to remain, for this summer, but later on, I'd like to replace it with a small rectangular pramhood that covers just the companionway. As a refinement, I'm wondering whether I can make it so that the forward edge is not attached permanently, but can be unfastened, and the after edge brought down to attach to the washboard. Thus, there would be clear vision when running downwind in the rain, and a good "blower" ventilator in hot weather. I'm looking for a way of adding some of the virtues of the rotating pramhood, which I can't figure out a way of incorporating. 

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  • 19 May 2016 05:26
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    David Tyler wrote:

    Ah, yes, Bryan, but there's a vital difference between Fantail and Weaverbird. Fantail is great for Lilliputians and Hobbits, but I have [I'll whisper it so that Annie won't hear] a - sliding hatch!!! This permits a much larger percentage of the human race to enter the cabin without contortions.

    Ah - you'll be able to go from cabin to cockpit without risking being held upside down and spanked. Will you take any extra steps to prevent the sliding hatch from letting water below, or is it adequate as-is?
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  • 17 May 2016 12:02
    Reply # 4024476 on 3994048

    Ah, yes, Bryan, but there's a vital difference between Fantail and Weaverbird. Fantail is great for Lilliputians and Hobbits, but I have [I'll whisper it so that Annie won't hear] a - sliding hatch!!! This permits a much larger percentage of the human race to enter the cabin without contortions.

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  • 17 May 2016 10:52
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    David Tyler wrote:

    I've been looking again at the hinged washboard that Annie made for Fantail, and I may have to grudgingly admit that she got it right, that this is what Weaverbird needs, and that I should shamelessly steal the design. I might alter the proportions, with the lower portions....

    Ah, yes, and it's also a great party trick. Fantail's exquisite hinged washboards not only provide a comforting degree of weatherproofing; they do double duty and allow those of Lilliputian dimensions a plausible means of entry to the cabin. For an actual grown human, a one and half double-twisting pyke with backflip followed by a mimicking of the key scene in 'Aliens' provides an amusing facsimile of the same. Rehearsing for this manoeuvre could be achieved by climbing in a small microwave oven. Or toaster.

    More seriously, i think it's a great idea. The interisland ferries in NZ wouldn't use vertical washboards because they're not sufficiently seaworthy. The hinged washboards also provide a semi-sheltered seated watch position. 

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  • 17 May 2016 08:24
    Reply # 4024175 on 3994048

    I've been thinking about the companionway. There's the usual trapezium-shaped washboard, that's fiddly to engage into its slot; the sill is too low to keep out water that's lying on the small bridgedeck; the retaining teak strips are flimsy; the washboard needs to be stowed in a non-existent "somewhere"; it would be quite possible for it to be blown out of my hands and overside, in a gale. All the usual catalogue of defects.

    There isn't room for a captive slide-down washboard, as I had on Tystie. I've been looking again at the hinged washboard that Annie made for Fantail, and I may have to grudgingly admit that she got it right, that this is what Weaverbird needs, and that I should shamelessly steal the design. I might alter the proportions, with the lower portion about 2/3 of the whole, and maybe I would make the lower portion of plywood and the upper portion of acrylic. I could make good use of the stowage box that Annie added to support the folded washboard, but that could come along later, because on Weaverbird, the folded washboard can rest on the cockpit seats.

  • 15 May 2016 17:35
    Reply # 4021287 on 3994048

    Weaverbird now has a mast-sized hole through the deck, with 5 layers of 12mm plywood bonded on underneath. There's more to do to stiffen up this area, but progress is being made.

  • 15 May 2016 06:06
    Reply # 4020779 on 3994048
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    And I thought I was brave changing some through hulls on a single tidal cycle.....   Well done!

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