David Tyler wrote......The equivalent manoeuvre is to continue to sail to windward, but under very much reduced sail area, so that speed is so low that the keel stalls and you make a lot of leeway, therefore making good a course across the wind. The vane gear should 
continue to keep the course well enough.

Lying beam-on with a slack sheet is OK when you need a break, or need to wait for some reason, in gentle weather, but is not a heavy weather tactic, as the motion is rather uncomfortable. 

Now I surely am glad I don't have to re-write 'Junk Rig for Beginners' about heaving to, as it fits in well with the two methods David describe here...

I use the inshore way of heaving to a lot here, to give way to traffic...

Arne

David Tyler wrote:

Gary King wrote:

I dunno Dave, who were the armchair sailors here? You described both Graham's and my #2 method anyway..

The times we have hove to, in both our old Bermudan and current junk, was to a/ use the loo, b/ sheets free to cut a cray pot rode from the rudder and c/ fix a torn head panel. It has uses, for doing stuff/fixing things.

I meant the Wooden Boat sailors. Sorry if I didn't make that clear.

Ha ha, maybe we are armchair sailors anyway, especially those of us who have Jester pramhoods and central control stations, crossing ocean in pajamas and carpet slippers, with a comfortable seat or hammock slung beneath the hatch!!  As for me, I am one of the tough old school, I still sail Arion from the cockpit, but I've never been on deck for other than recreational purposes (to watch the dolphins at the bows etc) in the last 4 years.  I spend all my time tucked up on the bridgedeck, beneath my cockpit roof with its solid perspex dodger, reading comics.

Steve Koschella wrote:

I'm having a vigorous conversation on the Wooden Boat forum about the pros and cons of the junk rig vs the Bermudan on a Hartley TS16.

One issue that came up was regarding heaving to in a junk boat. Can it be done without a mizzen? What is the equivalent manoeuvre in a junk boat to bring the boat to a controlled stop toward the wind? 

It sounds like the armchair sailors are making themselves heard, as heaving to is not particularly helpful, safe or effective in modern boats, I find. It works best with a straight stem and a long keel, not often found these days.

The equivalent manoeuvre is to continue to sail to windward, but under very much reduced sail area, so that speed is so low that the keel stalls and you make a lot of leeway, therefore making good a course across the wind. The vane gear should 
continue to keep the course well enough.

Lying beam-on with a slack sheet is OK when you need a break, or need to wait for some reason, in gentle weather, but is not a heavy weather tactic, as the motion is rather uncomfortable. 

I suggest reading Roger Taylor's books about his voyages in Ming Ming.  Like Gary, he heaves to successfully by sheeting in the upper panels and setting the windvane to 40 degrees. 

I'm having a vigorous conversation on the Wooden Boat forum about the pros and cons of the junk rig vs the Bermudan on a Hartley TS16.

One issue that came up was regarding heaving to in a junk boat. Can it be done without a mizzen? What is the equivalent manoeuvre in a junk boat to bring the boat to a controlled stop toward the wind?