Junk Rig Glossary -updated and expanded, and an invitation

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  • 26 Dec 2014 08:25
    Reply # 3176850 on 3171528
    Deleted user

    Dave has gained some internet access and has provided an updated (the formatting problems have been resolved now) version on Google Docs here

    Editorial suggestions may be directed to <jrgeditor@gmail.com> as usual
    Last modified: 26 Dec 2014 22:17 | Deleted user
  • 21 Dec 2014 01:34
    Reply # 3173688 on 3171528

    Definition of AIRFOIL. : a body (as an airplane wing or propeller blade) designed to provide a desired reaction force when in motion relative to the surrounding air.

    - Webster's dictionary.

    Better to keep it simple, and not try to introduce too much explanation or theory.

  • 20 Dec 2014 22:12
    Reply # 3173633 on 3171528

    Hi all,

    Thanks so much for thoughts on the glossary. I'm wondering if this is a consensus, among you, of the best airfoil definition, and which would be your favorite link to place with that? Do you agree on the definition proposed by Darren? Dave Zeiger's computer access is a little limited just now, but when it works again I think he'll have some thoughts on this also…

    Are there other definitions that jump out in the same way? Or, of course, ones that you just like!

    Thanks again,
    Shemaya
    (JRG editing team member)

  • 18 Dec 2014 19:05
    Reply # 3172618 on 3171528
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Yes, Arvel Gentry is good, and also fun to read.

    Another one who studied airflow a lot and wrote about it (but maybe not in English) was the Swedish inventor, turbine-builder and sailor, Frederik Ljungstrøm. He explained the interactions between jib and mainsail, and the turbulence around  masts way back in the nineteen thirties...

  • 18 Dec 2014 17:24
    Reply # 3172538 on 3171528

    Airfoil definition: Arvel Gentry put sailors straight about this way back in 1973!

    http://arvelgentry.jimdo.com/articles/

    Last modified: 18 Dec 2014 18:27 | Anonymous member
  • 18 Dec 2014 08:41
    Reply # 3172282 on 3171528
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Thank you Darren for putting this right.  Good old Newton (plus the phenomenon of viscosity in fluids) must not be forgotten when discussing the lift and drag of aerofoils.

    Here is a link to John S Denker’s «See how it flies”, Chapter 3, about Lift and Drag:

    http://www.av8n.com/how/htm/airfoils.html

    and here is the link to Denker’s start page.

    http://www.av8n.com/how/

    Denker confirms what NASA writes about this. Many school books on basic fluid theory need to be revised

    Arne

     

  • 18 Dec 2014 04:50
    Reply # 3172236 on 3171528
    Deleted user

    What a great resource this will be to new members of the site!

    You might want to change the definition of airfoil, as what you have contains an incorrect description of lift and airfoils don't need to be curved.  I would propose:  

    Airfoil: an object whose shape is designed to produce lift while minimizing the drag produced.  Airfoils, such as sails, produce lift when a moving flow of gas is turned by a solid object. The flow is turned in one direction, and the lift is generated in the opposite direction, according to Newton's Third Law of action and reaction.

    The links below provide a good description of lift and why the purely Bernouli and equal transit explanations aren't adequate.

    http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/k-12/airplane/wrong1.html

    http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/k-12/airplane/lift1.html

  • 18 Dec 2014 03:43
    Reply # 3172200 on 3171528
    Deleted user

    Quite correct, sir,  and thank you for the intervention.

    Comments please, and members may care to open the debate on any questionable terms here to generate support for their position.

    Last modified: 18 Dec 2014 03:44 | Deleted user
  • 17 Dec 2014 08:18
    Reply # 3171571 on 3171528
    Anonymous

    Well done on an outstanding piece of work.  The link in Bruce's post does not work, unfortunately - I think this is what he meant to use. 

  • 17 Dec 2014 05:20
    Message # 3171528
    Deleted user
    The Glossary Editorial Group presents for the review 
    of the JRA membership a rather more complete Glossary
    of Junk Rig terms.

    The Glossary can be found by clicking here
    The Editorial Group is seeking your input with a view
    to publishing this document on the JRA website for
    the benefit of members and non-members alike.

    A brief note of corrections, clarifications and
    congratulations should be addressed to the Group
    at <jrgeditor@gmail.com>. Let me finally acknowledge the work of Dave Zeiger,
    Shemaya Laurel and Lesley Verbrugge without whom...
    Last modified: 26 Dec 2014 22:15 | Deleted user
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