looking for marina mooring suggestions England's south coast

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  • 13 Jul 2024 12:19
    Reply # 13381506 on 13381396
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:

    Spoke with Thornham. Sadly they said my 1.4 draught was too much. 
    1.4 metres draught? That's 4ft 8 inches. Your 27ft bilge keeler sure has long legs. What is she?
    There must be a mistake somewhere. I just saw this on the Macwester Wordpress sight. 3 ft. 10" seems a little more like. it. Don't you think? Maybe I'll call them back again.

    Even 3' 10" is deep, but Branwen had the same draught and got in OK. Her centreboard got jammed in its case with packed mud, but your twin keeler should be perfectly happy there. Friends of mine, fellow JRA members are living in their gaff cutter ashore in the yard at Thornham. I'll put you in touch with them, should you end up there.

  • 12 Jul 2024 23:53
    Reply # 13381396 on 13381372
    Anonymous wrote:

    Spoke with Thornham. Sadly they said my 1.4 draught was too much. 
    1.4 metres draught? That's 4ft 8 inches. Your 27ft bilge keeler sure has long legs. What is she?
    There must be a mistake somewhere. I just saw this on the Macwester Wordpress sight. 3 ft. 10" seems a little more like. it. Don't you think? Maybe I'll call them back again.
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  • 12 Jul 2024 23:48
    Reply # 13381395 on 13381372
    Anonymous wrote:

    Spoke with Thornham. Sadly they said my 1.4 draught was too much. 
    1.4 metres draught? That's 4ft 8 inches. Your 27ft bilge keeler sure has long legs. What is she?

    That's what I was thinking as well. She's an Atlanta Viking 28. Maybe the draught measurement on sailboat data is for the fin keel version???


  • 12 Jul 2024 22:20
    Reply # 13381372 on 13381357

    Spoke with Thornham. Sadly they said my 1.4 draught was too much. 
    1.4 metres draught? That's 4ft 8 inches. Your 27ft bilge keeler sure has long legs. What is she?
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  • 12 Jul 2024 21:51
    Reply # 13381357 on 13379665
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:

    Hello again Jonny, another idea just occurred to me: take a look at Thornham Marina, Chichester Harbour. It's in a beautiful, prime location with Emsworth town and a rail station a half hour walk away, but it's relatively cheap for the south coast because it dries to mud and gravel on the tide. 


    Nice! thanks Asmat. Will have a look in the am.
    Spoke with Thornham. Sadly they said my 1.4 draught was too much. 
  • 10 Jul 2024 22:27
    Reply # 13380550 on 13378789

    Jonny

    I keep Lexia on a Dart Harbour Authority mooring in the centre of the River Dart off Kingswear.  

    But that is not a walk ashore. 

    So I have to pay to keep a dinghy in the Toast Rack and I row to and from the boat or take the water taxi which has limited times.  

    Best of luck.

    Jonathan

  • 10 Jul 2024 17:39
    Reply # 13380372 on 13380202
    Anonymous wrote:

    Jonny

    Another suggestion that is not quite what you outlined as you requirement.  

    You state that your boat cannot stay at the River Axe.  

    So a first part of your requirement might be somewhere to move the boat to at least initially possibly not too far from the Axe.  And you state that you want a marina, not say just a mooring.  

    You might look at Dolphin Boatyard at the head of Galpmton Creek off the River Dart.  It is say three coastal day sails from the Axe.  

    What was Dolphin boatyard on the South of the creek has recently bought what was Dartside Quay on the North of the creek and it is now one business administered from Dartside Quay.  They have added a number of new pontoon berths in the middle of the creek.  The new pontoons are all walk ashore and have water and electricity on the pontoons.  They all dry out but are accessible for a few hours either side of high water.  

    The annual charge for a 27 foot boat is £2,952 inclusive of Value Added Tax. (£8 per day.)  That is not cheap , but it is cheaper than any other marina on the Dart.  I didn't enquire about shorter stays.  

    Jeff Middleton a JRA member who lives in the North of England, had booked his boat into Dolphin last year in order to cruise the South coast for at least a season.  Unfortunately he lost his boat en-route .... (That children is another story!) 

    An advantage of Dolphin would be that you can move your boat onto the drying out pad on the quay wall of the old boatyard to dry out for underwater work.  I have done that with Lexia for a number of years now.  Cheap compared with the cost of a lift out and lift in.  Water and electricity available on the quay for pressure washing.  

    The River Dart is one of the most beautiful rivers imaginable.  Galmpton Creek is quiet and sheltered.  It would be very suitable for staying on the pontoon over winter.  Dolphin has all the facilities that you might require and lots of trades available for support if required.  Galpmton village has a good community owned shop and a good pub.  

    This is not an upmarket MDL marina , and all the better for that.  (However, if you want that plus a town then look at Brixham or Torquay.) 

    However, Paignton, the nearest station takes from 3 to 3 1/2 hours from London.  Then a bus and a walk to the boatyard, or a taxi.  

    Cruising the South West peninsular from the Dart is wonderful.  And the Channel Islands are approximately 70 miles away (a dawn to dusk day sail in summer) and Roscoff in Britanny is 100 miles away (a 20 hour overnight sail) both achievable solo if need be.  And if you are intending to head for Southern Europe, Dartmouth is a good departure , or day sail to Falmouth for an departure into the Western Approaches.  

    Just a thought ......

    Jonathan 

    Hello Jonathan!


    And thank you for such a thorough and thought out description.

    I'm going to have a look online. The 3.5 hours to London is a bit much ... but who knows.


    Let's see how this adventure unfolds. Is that where you are keeping Lexia??


    J

  • 10 Jul 2024 12:07
    Reply # 13380202 on 13378789

    Jonny

    Another suggestion that is not quite what you outlined as you requirement.  

    You state that your boat cannot stay at the River Axe.  

    So a first part of your requirement might be somewhere to move the boat to at least initially possibly not too far from the Axe.  And you state that you want a marina, not say just a mooring.  

    You might look at Dolphin Boatyard at the head of Galpmton Creek off the River Dart.  It is say three coastal day sails from the Axe.  

    What was Dolphin boatyard on the South of the creek has recently bought what was Dartside Quay on the North of the creek and it is now one business administered from Dartside Quay.  They have added a number of new pontoon berths in the middle of the creek.  The new pontoons are all walk ashore and have water and electricity on the pontoons.  They all dry out but are accessible for a few hours either side of high water.  

    The annual charge for a 27 foot boat is £2,952 inclusive of Value Added Tax. (£8 per day.)  That is not cheap , but it is cheaper than any other marina on the Dart.  I didn't enquire about shorter stays.  

    Jeff Middleton a JRA member who lives in the North of England, had booked his boat into Dolphin last year in order to cruise the South coast for at least a season.  Unfortunately he lost his boat en-route .... (That children is another story!) 

    An advantage of Dolphin would be that you can move your boat onto the drying out pad on the quay wall of the old boatyard to dry out for underwater work.  I have done that with Lexia for a number of years now.  Cheap compared with the cost of a lift out and lift in.  Water and electricity available on the quay for pressure washing.  

    The River Dart is one of the most beautiful rivers imaginable.  Galmpton Creek is quiet and sheltered.  It would be very suitable for staying on the pontoon over winter.  Dolphin has all the facilities that you might require and lots of trades available for support if required.  Galpmton village has a good community owned shop and a good pub.  

    This is not an upmarket MDL marina , and all the better for that.  (However, if you want that plus a town then look at Brixham or Torquay.) 

    However, Paignton, the nearest station takes from 3 to 3 1/2 hours from London.  Then a bus and a walk to the boatyard, or a taxi.  

    Cruising the South West peninsular from the Dart is wonderful.  And the Channel Islands are approximately 70 miles away (a dawn to dusk day sail in summer) and Roscoff in Britanny is 100 miles away (a 20 hour overnight sail) both achievable solo if need be.  And if you are intending to head for Southern Europe, Dartmouth is a good departure , or day sail to Falmouth for an departure into the Western Approaches.  

    Just a thought ......

    Jonathan 

  • 09 Jul 2024 23:35
    Reply # 13380044 on 13380016
    Anonymous wrote:

    Hi Jonny,

    Probably totally far from your plans, but....

    Soubise, 20mn bus to Rochefort (train station), close to La Rochelle (train + aitport), cheapest home for your boat on the Atlantic,  boats are berthed on the dry with several splashes a year depending on contract.

    One hour nice river sail from the ocean.

    This is where I keep  Paradox, and where I kept China Blue. 

    So why not? Less beer, more wine, pleasant city and the (small) staff are  nice and friendly (specially since I’ll recommend you ).

    https://www.port-adhoc.com/nos-ports/port-a-sec-soubise/ 

    Hey Patrick!! 


    Man , that is actually a possibility at some point! 

    First , I just want to get her somewhere in England and spend some time getting to know her.

    We need a catch up pal! 

  • 09 Jul 2024 22:09
    Reply # 13380016 on 13378789

    Hi Jonny,

    Probably totally far from your plans, but....

    Soubise, 20mn bus to Rochefort (train station), close to La Rochelle (train + aitport), cheapest home for your boat on the Atlantic,  boats are berthed on the dry with several splashes a year depending on contract.

    One hour nice river sail from the ocean.

    This is where I keep  Paradox, and where I kept China Blue. 

    So why not? Less beer, more wine, pleasant city and the (small) staff are  nice and friendly (specially since I’ll recommend you ).

    https://www.port-adhoc.com/nos-ports/port-a-sec-soubise/ 

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