Present Location of Allen Farrell's "China Cloud"

  • 09 Feb 2024 18:10
    Reply # 13313219 on 13281321
    Anonymous wrote:

    It is on my bucket list to one day visit Allen Farrell's "China Cloud".

    Does anyone know where she is at this time? I will be in Vancouver, December 25 to January 5, 2024. If she is nearby, I'd like to make a "pilgrimage" to see her. The present owner, whoever they are, might prefer that to be private information. So be it.  I would love, however, to get in touch with said owner and talk about Allen's marvelous creation.

    Thanks David and Len for those photos and leads.

    I wrote an email; to the address I found but no answer. It was rather short notice, and it was, after all, the Christmas season. People may well have other plans.

    Perhaps another day. I am out there once a year.

  • 21 Nov 2023 17:06
    Reply # 13282172 on 13282022
    Anonymous wrote:

    As she looked in October 2013, when I saw her in Deep Bay marina, Vancouver Island on my way south from Alaska:

    https://junkrigassociation.org/Sys/PublicProfile/
    2757889/PhotoAlbums/46567

    Thank you so much. Wonderful to be able to take pictures from a dock. I saw China Cloud around the same time (within a year or so) in the Comox Harbour dried out, so the last picture you show is about what I could see. The mud made it impossible to get very close and being dried out, I was looking up at it anyway. I do remember thinking the outboard motor looked huge in the small space where it is hung but it looks smaller from above. Your pictures show more than in the book, or perhaps the perspective shows things in better context. The book is more about the people even though it includes the lines for the boat. Lots of hatches/companionways. Masts are in tabernacles, though I would guess they are not lowered often, at least with the new owners. The decks are much flatter that the great smile of the sheer line. The fore and aft having bulwarks and the mid deck being almost flush. Something that should be "of course" but seeing gives a different context.

    Deep Bay is a wonderful and well protected place. Crowded and rafting up is the norm. There is anchor space but it is outside the "no wake" zone and (at least in the 24ft boat we were in) very uncomfortable as all the power boats go full throttle right past it. The shallow part outside the spit goes out a long way, the charts and channel markers are correct.

    Fanny Bay (just North) is a good place to avoid at least for anchoring and even more crowded at the dock. (good crabbing though) But the dock master is really nice and gave us a free for the night mooring when he felt we should not go out due to weather. Tidal currents are 180 degrees and danforth type anchors don't do well.


    Last modified: 21 Nov 2023 17:14 | Anonymous member
  • 21 Nov 2023 09:23
    Reply # 13282022 on 13281321

    As she looked in October 2013, when I saw her in Deep Bay marina, Vancouver Island on my way south from Alaska:

    https://junkrigassociation.org/Sys/PublicProfile/
    2757889/PhotoAlbums/46567

    Last modified: 21 Nov 2023 09:24 | Anonymous member
  • 21 Nov 2023 01:15
    Reply # 13281939 on 13281321

    Hi Len,

    Thanks for those leads! I'll get right on it.

    If i do manage to get to see the boat, I'll take lots of pictures and share. With permission, of course.

    Cheers, Jim

  • 19 Nov 2023 21:07
    Reply # 13281396 on 13281321
    Anonymous wrote:

    It is on my bucket list to one day visit Allen Farrell's "China Cloud".

    That sounds like a good thing to do.

    Does anyone know where she is at this time?

    I had written a long message about having seen her in the past but after some thought decided to google "china cloud junk 23". I found this. The important part being:

    She still lives, in the hands of Eden Murray and her father Hans, closely related to the Farrells. At a little dock on the shores of Esquimalt, British Columbia, she is being restored and lovingly maintained.

    There is actually a website.

    I will be in Vancouver, December 25 to January 5, 2024. If she is nearby, I'd like to make a "pilgrimage" to see her. The present owner, whoever they are, might prefer that to be private information. So be it.  I would love, however, to get in touch with said owner and talk about Allen's marvelous creation.

    Esquimalt is a ferry ride away from Vancouver, a suburb of Victoria. As I recall, taking a car both ways is pretty much $200CAD, walk on is $20 or so each way.
  • 19 Nov 2023 14:04
    Message # 13281321

    It is on my bucket list to one day visit Allen Farrell's "China Cloud".

    Does anyone know where she is at this time? I will be in Vancouver, December 25 to January 5, 2024. If she is nearby, I'd like to make a "pilgrimage" to see her. The present owner, whoever they are, might prefer that to be private information. So be it.  I would love, however, to get in touch with said owner and talk about Allen's marvelous creation.

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