Sailing with Grand PHA

  • 10 Nov 2014 02:32
    Reply # 3146596 on 1286087

    Hello Graham

    This evening my wife is coming back on board after a voyage in Brittany via Melbourne  due to the pass of her mother.

    When we'll receive her Aus visa for one year (I got the mine), according the weather forecast and the time to cross to avoid to land Bundaberg out of the week end I hope to leave the New Calédonia in order to arrive before the 22 or after the 23 November.

    Anyway after we'll continue to sail to the south until Melbourne, so we'll have a few stops along the coast near Brisbane, Coff Harbour, Sydney, etc.

    So if you can't wait for us we can meet us more south.

    I take your email adress on this site and phone number. In Australia we'll have this phone number : 0422 673 941 and you can track us via this link . There is a bug on the map and you have to zoom on the position map to see the details of our position.

    See you soon

    Bertrand


  • 09 Nov 2014 09:21
    Reply # 3146163 on 1286087

    Greetings!  Where do you intend to make landfall in Australia?  I am in Bundaberg on Arion at the moment, heading south, hopefully to Sydney Harbour for the summer.  I am a junk sailor who used to have Wharram cats in my youth and would love to meet you if we crossed tacks.  I hope to leave here in a week or so and head down towards Brisbane, probably leaving there for Sydney late December or early January.  Bundaberg is not a good place to spend the summer, it is a river port that has had bad cyclonic floods in recent years.  Besides, the sandflies are more ferocious than the crocodiles.  Brisbane or points south would be better.

  • 09 Nov 2014 08:18
    Reply # 3146159 on 1286087

    Salut Guy

    Félicitation également pour la construction de ton Pollen en alu épais. Je croyais que c'était réservé à la construction professionnelle.

    J'apprécie les plans de JP Brouns, et peut -être que dans quelques années j'aimerai trouver un petit troller avec une voile de jonque pour faire du cabotage et pouvoir remonter les rivières.

    Désolé, pour le moment notre site internet est en chomage technique , en attendant tu peux nous suivre sur cel blog :  Suivi de navigation de Grand PHA avec commentaires en français

    Bon courage pour les aménagements et le gréement.

    Bertrand


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  • 08 Nov 2014 20:48
    Reply # 3146012 on 1286087
    Anonymous

    Congratulations Bertrand !  It's a great trip !

    I will be happy to read more of yours adventures...  (in french if possible ;-) )

    Guy

  • 08 Nov 2014 02:51
    Reply # 3145171 on 1286087

    Hello, one year ago in November 2013 we crossed the north Atlantic from La Palma (Canarias) to St Martin (North Caribbeans) and after a stop of 2 weeks we sailed to Abaco (North Bahamas) after a stop in Great Inagua.

    After we sailed south to the "ile a Vaches" (Haiti), and to the San Blas and the Panama canal.

    Next the Marquisas, Tuamotu, Tahiti and the leeward islands, next Wallis and now since the 10th September we are in New Caledonia and the loyalty islands in waiting to sail to Australia before the end of November.

    One day I'll make a digest of our voyage.

    In waiting, here is a video of Grand PHA sailinga  along the oceanic Panama coast.

    And so the Grand PHA tracking blog

    Bertrand


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  • 03 Feb 2014 02:07
    Reply # 1488915 on 1286087
    Hello Sally and Steve

    Yes in fact our last meet was at the end of April 2013 in the  Newton river.
    Yesterday evening in a dark night we put our anchor in the Baie à Feret ( or port Morgane) on the île à Vache (in the SW of Haïti).
    The first 2/3 of the voyage from Great Inagua has been fast (and wet) but the last part was very slow with the wind in the nose + swell  + 1.5kts of current. And to progress quicker we motor sailed in tacking at 25° off the wind.
    I was very surprised to see that the sail was able to drive at a such close wind angle : facing the apparent wind of 16-20kts the speed with one engine alone at 2600rpm was 3-4 kts and at 25° of the wind the speed increased to 5.5-6 kts and more in the gusts.

    We are here to give things to an orphanage and in one week after to have visited the island and met local people, we'll sail to the San Blas for a stop of 2 or 3 months before to pass the Panama canal.

    I saw since the last autumn you had a lot of storms andf it's not yet ended....Hoping you'll have a good Summer to enjoy sailing.

    Bertrand




  • 30 Jan 2014 22:13
    Reply # 1486997 on 1286087

    Bertrand and Marie-Helene,

    Great to hear that you are both well and Grand Pha is sailing well; it seems a long time since last summer in the Solent!  It was great to hear of your passage to the Caribbean - Steve and I wish you both well for the next leg of your voyage.

  • 30 Jan 2014 03:58
    Reply # 1486380 on 1286087
    Dear Mark

    Now after one month in Abaco we sail to the south. We got a good window weather but the last 50NM to reach Great Inagua we had to motor sail at 30% of the apparent wind.
    The sails are able to point at 30° but the forward sail force is too weak to well progress and the help of one engine at low power is enough to progress at 4-5kts with a 10-15kts wind. Until 50° of the wind we have a good power with a minimum of 15kltd wind. As I already said the best power is get in releasing the sheets and after to re tension them with a minimum of tension.
    As the curve is not very deep  the sail force is lower than with my previous double wishbones which generated a very deep curve.
    Sure I regret these double wishbones, but the new big ones in one part are almopst impossible to break.

    Yes the drag of a symmetric sail is less than an asymmetric one. It's the same principle with a good hull shape which generate a high pressure area at the bow which generatie low pressure areas along the side of the hull (allowing progress with a minimum of drag) and one another high pressure at the stern which cancel almost the bow drag.
    But the problem is the sails work at a relative very low wind speed (comparing to a wing) and need more curve to generate a good sail force.

    I can't make this test with one sail up and the other down to compare at anchor the difference opf drag because the sail refuse to stay facing the wind in a neutral position : automatically at a moment the wind will blow more on a side and immediately the sail begun to drive the boat on his anchor!

    In the next weeks (or month) I'll make a digest of my experiences with this rig  on a pdf file with photos.

    Cheers, Bertrand
  • 20 Jan 2014 17:47
    Reply # 1478868 on 1286087

    Dear Bertrand,

    Good to hear that the latest iteration of your rig is working well.  It raises some interesting points:

    - How does it compare to the previous hinged versions, particularly to windward?  Which is better, the smoothness of a full double sided sail with a small amount of beneficial asymmetrical wing shape (due to panel bulging) ,  or the full asymmetric wing shape of the hinged version with the single sided rear flap (David has noted turbulence at the join of the flap)? 

    - It is often shown that, for the same wind resistance, a wing section can be many times wider than a circular section (ie mast). This takes some believing, especially when you see that for your sail it is wide enough to climb up inside!   Of course a fabric wing is not going to be as good as a solid wing from which the data taken.    

    So, is it the case that the sail, when fully raised, has more or less resistance to the mast with the sail dropped?  With your bi-plane rig this can be readily tested, by mooring from the centre of the front beam, with only one sail up, then see how the boat lies.  Ideally the test would be carried out in different wind speeds.

    cheers Mark

  • 17 Jan 2014 15:39
    Reply # 1477123 on 1476767
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    Bertrand Fercot wrote:Just a remark, our first names are not Bernard and Helene but Bertrand and Marie-Helene.
    Oops, that's the second time I've made that mistake. Really sorry, Bertrand. All corrected now in Junk Info > Useful Links > Members Blogs and Websites. Thanks.
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