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Peter Manning's 'Malliemac'

  • 01 May 2013 16:31
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    Reply # 1282942 on 1282698
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    Peter Manning wrote:
    Annie Hill wrote:
    Peter Manning wrote:...  using the main halyard, indeed my only halyard.
    Might I strongly recommend that you make one more trip back up that mast and fit another, decent-sized block?  If your halliard block should break - and they do - you will be in an extremely embarrassing situation if you have no other block at the mast head.  I use my spare block for a burgee halliard.  It only has thin line going through it, but is large enough to take the 10 mm I use for the main halliard.

    Annie, thank you for your recommendation. David advised me to lead the halyard through two blocks blocks at the top of the mast rather than one double. The blocks are Barton size 7 and side by side on U bolts under the mast plate. I think he has the same arrangement.
    I do have a block for a burgee and one to haul an ssb aerial if needed but these are not large enough for 10 mm line. Indeed as they are fitted on a 5 mm plate running across the top of the mast plate they would not be strong enough either. I hope that in the event of one halyard block failure I would be able to get up the mast using the other. A double failure, however, could be a problem.
    Yes, I strongly recommend splitting the main halyard between two blocks, hung from two separate points. For a 3 part halyard that's two single blocks, for more parts, it's a single and a single and becket, or a single and a double ( though I think that a 5 part halyard is very inefficient, and a 3 part halyard and a winch is better practice).

    That way, the fall is always lead fairly towards the deck, and there's always at least one part of the halyard that can used to ascend the mast for repairs.
  • 01 May 2013 08:15
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    Annie Hill wrote:
    Peter Manning wrote:...  using the main halyard, indeed my only halyard.
    Might I strongly recommend that you make one more trip back up that mast and fit another, decent-sized block?  If your halliard block should break - and they do - you will be in an extremely embarrassing situation if you have no other block at the mast head.  I use my spare block for a burgee halliard.  It only has thin line going through it, but is large enough to take the 10 mm I use for the main halliard.

    Annie, thank you for your recommendation. David advised me to lead the halyard through two blocks blocks at the top of the mast rather than one double. The blocks are Barton size 7 and side by side on U bolts under the mast plate. I think he has the same arrangement.
    I do have a block for a burgee and one to haul an ssb aerial if needed but these are not large enough for 10 mm line. Indeed as they are fitted on a 5 mm plate running across the top of the mast plate they would not be strong enough either. I hope that in the event of one halyard block failure I would be able to get up the mast using the other. A double failure, however, could be a problem.
  • 01 May 2013 02:34
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    Have a great sail Peter, if conditions suit.
  • 01 May 2013 00:05
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    Peter Manning wrote:...  using the main halyard, indeed my only halyard.
    Might I strongly recommend that you make one more trip back up that mast and fit another, decent-sized block?  If your halliard block should break - and they do - you will be in an extremely embarrassing situation if you have no other block at the mast head.  I use my spare block for a burgee halliard.  It only has thin line going through it, but is large enough to take the 10 mm I use for the main halliard.
  • 30 Apr 2013 23:20
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    We are holding our breathe and wishing you the best Peter, good luck with it all.
  • 30 Apr 2013 22:18
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    To get this thread back on track I can report that since Mallie's encounter with the lock wall I have been trying to get the revised topping lift system fitted. However several days of strong winds have prevented me getting to the top of the mast using the yard crane. However, today, in sunshine and a gentle breeze I finally got there again and was able to fit the revised topping and mast lifts. Tomorrow I will complete the attachments to the sail catcher and alter the spans on the sheeting system, fill up with diesel and head back into the dock where, if weather conditions are fair I will have my first sail in Mallie. If all goes well I may even have some photos to post in the photo gallery and claim 'Boat of the Month'
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  • 30 Apr 2013 21:49
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    David Dawes wrote:
    Brian Kerslake wrote:David, look for a Freedom 30, 35, 39, 40........

    I am coming to UK for start of OSTAR, etc this summer and hope to see you if you are along the south coast still.

    David.
    David, We're now in Sutton Harbour Marina, Plymouth, so drop in if you're here for the OSTAR. Be good to see you. OK, let's get these posts back on topic - we're all keen to hear more about Malliemac :-)
  • 29 Apr 2013 11:14
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    The Tystie/Malliemac design was never fully drawn out and detailed for amateur construction. There was just sufficient information for professional boatbuilders to be able to build it. It is not a simple build. David Thomas's address is Patchworks, 87 Newton Road, Warsash, Southampton SO31 9GA, and I'm sure he would print you off a copy of the drawings he has, for a fee.
    Hello David, thanks for the reply and info.  I hope to see Mallie this summer.

    Cheers,

    David.
  • 29 Apr 2013 09:48
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    David Dawes wrote:Hello, where can one find more info on the design of Mallie and Tystie?

    Does the designer have a website?

    Have I missed finding this on the JRA website?

    These seemingly simple designs, like the Benford Badger, seem to offer capable cruising in affordable boats.

    Can anyone suggest other designs?

    Cheers,

    David.
    David,
    The Tystie/Malliemac design was never fully drawn out and detailed for amateur construction. There was just sufficient information for professional boatbuilders to be able to build it. It is not a simple build. David Thomas's address is Patchworks, 87 Newton Road, Warsash, Southampton SO31 9GA, and I'm sure he would print you off a copy of the drawings he has, for a fee.
  • 29 Apr 2013 09:00
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    Brian Kerslake wrote:David, look for a Freedom 30, 35, 39, 40. These usually have carbon fibre or alloy masts in more or less the right places, and several conversions to junk have been done, inc my own boat Paradox, a Freedom 39. While crusing in Portugal I met a guy in a steel 'Wylo' who wished he'd put a junk rig on her instead of his beautiful gaff rig. He went on to take her round the world, though.
    Hi Brian, I don't think the penny dropped.  I am the guy who was coming to say hello to you last year during the Cowes regatta when you were scrambling to get Paradox away last year.  I was researching to buy Matanie, your old Sunbird 32.

    I have indeed looked at F30s and F35s, and that is the type I am currently trying to charter or buy.  The Tystie hull just looks strong and simple and I was inspired as to maybe consider one as the "next next" boat.

    I am coming to UK for start of OSTAR, etc this summer and hope to see you if you are along the south coast still.

    I appreciate all the responses here.

    David.
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