Galley alcohol, gas and diesel cookers/ovens

  • 02 Feb 2013 12:06
    Reply # 1196370 on 1195343

    There are some pictures/discussion/drawings for stove gimbles  here.  Although he's using a kerosene stove, perhaps it would be suitable.

    Peter

  • 02 Feb 2013 00:40
    Reply # 1196091 on 1195343
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    Over the years I have had a number of stoves. The Coleman in both white gas and propane were very good. An Optimus pressure alcohol stove was an accident waiting to happen. Our two burner Origo stove was excellent but when we had it we had difficulty finding alcohol outside of North America and during one cruise pretty well had to quit cooking when we had only one gallon left for three months of travel.  Thought rum might work but never gave it a try. Traded the Origo for a fisherman's anchor that we get more use from.The past eight years have been with a Taylors and the parts are expensive and getting harder to find. We have a store of parts for a number of years to come and find getting fuel not to be a problem at all. We have used kerosene, Jet A and minerla spirits with no problems. We do enjoy the oven and use it regularly. The stove is not gimballed but is located close to the roll centre (thanks Paul) so cooking is not a great challenge in most weather conditions. The oven racks are adjustable to compensate for the heel of the boat and more than once Kathy has asked to go on the other tack so she could bake easier. I have found some really interesting alcohol inserts at http://www.marinestove.com/Accessories.htm that will likely fit in the burner holes in the casting when the day comes that we need to make a choice of stoves again.
    Last modified: 02 Feb 2013 19:57 | Deleted user
  • 01 Feb 2013 20:50
    Reply # 1195901 on 1195343
    I fitted my own gimbals with the pivot point 50mm above the top of the cooker, and added a very large lead weight underneath. Doing both these things makes the gimballing acceptable, though it can never be perfect, as the tank is off the pivot line and its weight will vary with the level of fuel.

    One very good thing about the Maxie is that the pan supports are surrounded by a very high rail, and there has never been any tendency for pans to leap off in lively weather. I rarely use the pan clamps. The Origo seems to rely solely on pan clamps.
  • 01 Feb 2013 20:09
    Reply # 1195876 on 1195343
    I have a two burner Maxie that friends gave me when they upgraded. I had always heard that they were slow but I find it works just fine. As for the gimbaling I find if the tank is not near full it's fairly useless. I put Nyloc nuts on gimbal bolts and just tighten them up a bit to take the swing out of  it.
  • 01 Feb 2013 19:28
    Reply # 1195838 on 1195343
    When I saw David's Maxie stove in action, I quite fell in love with it and bought one for myself.  It is more expensive to use than a propane one, but I have found a source that sells bulk alcohol which brings the cost down  to about $8 a week.  That's a bit under four quid and I do a lot of cooking.  I've not had David's problem with icky fingers, but then I tend to fill the cooker directly from a 1 litre bottle via a funnel and don't usually have any spillages.  My only real bitch with the Maxie is that the gimballing' system is pretty useless, even with the addition of a lead weight.  It is much more a pendulum than a pivot and coming back from Mahurangi recently, in a bit of a wild sea, I really couldn't use it.  Another more minor gripe is that the pan supports are too far apart: one of my pans tends to tip up on it and I only dare to use my espresso coffee jug in flat calm conditions.

    The camp oven is a good idea and I would like to have an oven for various different recipes that I miss cooking, and also to bake a loaf-shaped loaf.  (My frying pan is just too small to contain any of the loaf tins I can find.)  I once had a folding oven and I recall finding a problem with it, insofar as it completely tied up one burner (where do you put a red-hot oven down?) and only allowed room for a small pan on the other.  I looked up the specs of the Coleman, but could only find approximate dimensions - the 10 in square rack adjusts to 3 cooking heights.  Could you give me the genuine dimensions, please, Tony.  It might just fit between my fiddle rails and I would give it serious consideration in that case.
  • 01 Feb 2013 16:53
    Reply # 1195700 on 1195343
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    We have a Colemans fold up oven which we used to use on our campervan, which only had two burners .Its a great bit of kit, will bake a big loaf, roast a whole chicken , even has a themometer built into the door. Folds flat for stowing and only costs 50 quid.it will sit on one burner or across two for high temperature cooking.irrespective of your heat source, tony
    Last modified: 01 Feb 2013 16:55 | Deleted user
  • 01 Feb 2013 16:39
    Reply # 1195683 on 1195343
    Just one downside  that I've found - the methylated spirits in NZ contains a powerful bittering agent,to discourage illicit use. If you re-fuel the stove, then start cooking and happen to lick your fingers - ugh!
  • 01 Feb 2013 16:16
    Reply # 1195667 on 1195586
    David Tyler wrote:
    Jonathan Snodgrass wrote:

    David, What about an oven? 


    My Taylors oven did not get used enough to justify the space it took up.

    "Ask of me anything but time!"  Napolean

    "Ask of me anything but space on the boat!"  DT ?

  • 01 Feb 2013 15:02
    Reply # 1195618 on 1195597
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    David Tyler wrote:The Maxie has a length of wicking inside the tube leading to the burner. It's not needed for the usual purpose, and my guess is that it's to prevent surging, and too fast a flow of fuel. I wonder if your First Mate is lacking this?
    Don't see any sign of wicking, and didnt appear to behave like it has one. The instructions say to let alcohol to pool in a groove surrounding the burner, turn the knob off and light it. When it heats up the burner turn the knob back on and away you go.
    Its very easy to get going. Just has the odd surge problem. It is probably a fine stove for someone who can learn its idiosyncrasies..
    Last modified: 01 Feb 2013 15:04 | Deleted user
  • 01 Feb 2013 14:39
    Reply # 1195597 on 1195400
    Gary King wrote:We have an old version of the Maxie lying around, First Mate its called. Last time we fired it it up it tried to impersonate an old time nav beacon. Flame was about a foot high and not responding to the controls! Freaked the missus a little.
    so...  thats why Ashiki sports a nice new Origo.
    I think part of the problem is the thin plumbing pipes on those old stoves and the propensity for alcohol to evaporate in said piping. Though from your report, it looks like the new Maxie is a little more palatable.. 
    The Maxie has a length of wicking inside the tube leading to the burner. It's not needed for the usual purpose, and my guess is that it's to prevent surging, and too fast a flow of fuel. I wonder if your First Mate is lacking this?
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