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Galley alcohol, gas and diesel cookers/ovens

  • 04 Feb 2013 17:33
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    Reply # 1198380 on 1195343
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                                                                       Stavanger, Monday

    One big asset with alcohol stoves is that a fire like the one described above by Gary Kepper, can be dowsed with a bucketful of water - a method I would not recommend on a diesel or paraffin fire.

    Arne
  • 04 Feb 2013 16:20
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    Hi Gary - good to see a (December?) 'newbie' posting - welcome aboard. My wife and I are one of those couples who've always used gas - 30+ years - with no problems but with regular leak tests and pipe inspections etc. I consider it safe, though why they don't use natural gas (lighter than air?) rather than propane and butane beats me. Glad your partner was OK. Reminded me of when I once tried to start a barbie by chucking tiny amount of petrol on it. (I know, it's another Junk Brains story.) To see flames shooting towards you is scary to say the least.
  • 04 Feb 2013 10:51
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    I have had a metho stove before and was quite happy with it although expensive to run as I was heating water etc. Also In recent years my diet has changed and i now try to eat more raw foods and the fact I have a hot water service now makes an alcohol stove a good choice.
    I currently have a gas stove/oven and Im reluctant to connect it and use it as the idea of gas and boats don't mix. Many people have said "it's alright! nothing to worry about! I have had one for 30 years!" Im still not game enough to bring gas on board, so an alcohol stove it will be.
    My partner Sue had an accident on our last boat when I was away on another boat working. She decided to fill the stove with alcohol and in the process spilt alcohol and it ran down underneath and there was more than she realised as there was poor lighting. Also underestimating the danger, she continued to light the stove and within seconds the galley was alight and she panicked and used the fire extinguisher and what a mess!!! Partly my fault for not have a fire blanket at hand, luckily nothing was burnt just powder everywhere :o
  • 04 Feb 2013 08:46
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    Annie, David, you could always sit a fold up oven on top of a seperate single burner of any heat source. It would be fairly simple to cut and remake the Coleman to fit the available space as the materials are thin and the engineering crude,  TONY
  • 04 Feb 2013 00:15
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    hmm.. so the flat top design of the Origo has an advantage after all. I hadnt known about the Coleman oven, looks a great piece of kit. So am very glad we didnt fork for the Origo oven, the price is extortionate!
    Annie, there's always the dutch oven option. Dont know how one knows the temp in those things though.
  • 03 Feb 2013 23:47
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    You took the words right out of my mouth, David.  Bummer - I'd like to be able to make 'real' lasagne in the winter.  Guess I'll have to find a clever and cheap metal worker to make one for me.  Easier said than done.
  • 03 Feb 2013 17:44
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    Tony & Sally Summers wrote:Annie, the Coleman fold up oven measures, 12 1/4 inches wide, 12 1/4 inches high, and a bare 12 inches from front to back. folded its  12 1/4x 12 1/4 x 2 inches. poor quality tin plate but for the price its ok.    TONY
    That will be too big for the Maxie, which has a bare 10" between fiddle rails, front to back. Pity.
  • 03 Feb 2013 14:15
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    Annie, the Coleman fold up oven measures, 12 1/4 inches wide, 12 1/4 inches high, and a bare 12 inches from front to back. folded its  12 1/4x 12 1/4 x 2 inches. poor quality tin plate but for the price its ok.    TONY
  • 03 Feb 2013 13:46
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    Pleased to hear that alcohol is available outside of North America. My negative experiences were some twelve years ago in the Caribbean when I started to carry enough to last an entire cruise. I have not looked for alcohol since changing stoves to kerosene. For preheating the Taylors stove I use a small propane torch that is actually more cost effective than alcohol. Arne's comment on the Optimus burners is substantiated with the most recent spare I purchased as it is an Optimus burner as well.
  • 03 Feb 2013 13:27
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    Arne Kverneland wrote:

                                                                       Stavanger, Sunday

    This is an interesting thread. Of course the dominating factor (behind safety) when deciding the type of fuel is the availability of fuel and spare parts for the stove. I guess we who generally stay in one country have much less trouble than those of you who sail all over the world.

    Well, as someone pointed out, problems with availability of denatured alcohol outside of N. America. People here are all over outside N.America and aren't having problems.. 
    But I have a suspicion the translation for "outside N America" is simply the "Carribean", in which case, the Origo is reported to run excellently on cheap Rum.
    Anyhow, the stuff is available cheap throughout Asia ($3/L in Aus, $1.5/L in Indonesia) so I think we're safe.
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