Galley alcohol, gas, diesel and induction cookers/ovens

  • 10 Apr 2017 16:33
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    Bruno Gouget wrote:

    Here , a german (in german language!) site with a lot of spares .

    Have good cooking !


    I noticed part number P-5227 on the list of spares Bruno found is an alcohol adapter that lets you use the Optimus 207b burner with alcohol.  Has anyone ever run one of these stoves on alcohol?  
  • 07 Apr 2017 06:45
    Reply # 4721057 on 1195343

    Here , a german (in german language!) site with a lot of spares .

    Have good cooking !


  • 06 Apr 2017 15:42
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    Roy Denton wrote:
    Arne Kverneland wrote:

    When I see these wide, unreadable  postings, I copy and paste them into my Word-program, where it all become visible.


    A quick way of seeing all the text is to click on "quote", as if you were going to reply to the overwide post.  All the text is neatly laid out in the editing window, and you can then click "cancel" if you do not want to reply.

    Thanks, Roy, that was smart!

    A.

  • 06 Apr 2017 13:28
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    Arne Kverneland wrote:

    When I see these wide, unreadable  postings, I copy and paste them into my Word-program, where it all become visible.


    A quick way of seeing all the text is to click on "quote", as if you were going to reply to the overwide post.  All the text is neatly laid out in the editing window, and you can then click "cancel" if you do not want to reply.
  • 06 Apr 2017 13:05
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    When I see these wide, unreadable  postings, I copy and paste them into my Word-program, where it all become visible. Now I have put a few SHIFt+Return on that long link adress, so hopefully it gets readable here.

     

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    06 Apr 2017 10:20

    dennis gibbons wrote:

    All,

    I contacted James Baldwin who used to convert a kerosene stove to a gimbaled version.

    Attached is a link to what he considers the best kerosene stove available.

    http://stpaulmercantile.com/index.php?main_page=
    product_info&cPath=73&products_id=216&zenid=
    u08ga6dd085l4t6vdkji3c56c1

    Dennis

    This is the best kerosene stove available if you simply 'hot up' food or are deaf.  It's a 'roarer burner': immensely simple, will burn really poor kerosene and truly lives up to its name.  I cooked on one every day for about 2 years.  It did not add to the pleasure of cooking.

    Last modified: 06 Apr 2017 10:21 | Annie Hill


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  • 06 Apr 2017 10:24
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    Frank Schapitz wrote:Do you know which German product? As far as i know there is only the kerosene stove from "Hanse". Nice but slightly out of our budget range ...

    Frank


    Just so!  a lovely-looking, typical German quality product ......... at an eye-watering price.  It makes Taylors looks cheap! 
    Last modified: 06 Apr 2017 10:26 | Anonymous member
  • 06 Apr 2017 10:20
    Reply # 4718887 on 4716209
    dennis gibbons wrote:

    All,

    I contacted James Baldwin who used to convert a kerosene stove to a gimbaled version.

    Attached is a link to what he considers the best kerosene stove available.

    http://stpaulmercantile.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=73&products_id=216&zenid=u08ga6dd085l4t6vdkji3c56c1

    Dennis

    This is the best kerosene stove available if you simply 'hot up' food or are deaf.  It's a 'roarer burner': immensely simple, will burn really poor kerosene and truly lives up to its name.  I cooked on one every day for about 2 years.  It did not add to the pleasure of cooking.
    Last modified: 06 Apr 2017 10:21 | Anonymous member
  • 06 Apr 2017 10:17
    Reply # 4718884 on 4714289
    Arne Kverneland wrote:

    In haste;

    here is the link to the German shop which sells all kinds of traditional lamps, stoves and wotnot.

    The alcohol stove (1 or two burners) is shown here:

    Each burner only puts out 1kW, but for small work and simmering it must be good, and thanks to its oxygen-rich blue flame, I beet it is more economical in use  -  and produces probably much less soot, as well.

    That looks very similar to the Maxie burner at a sensible price.  Again, one would need to put rails around it to keep the pots in place, but its a genuine alternative.

    The alcohol burner I bough (from India) was of the little dish type. I liked that it has a screw-on tight lid, which lets one shut it down after use and use the remaining alcohol later. The idea was to see if I could later find a way to feed this little thing from a tank below (via one of those dose pumps).

    Arne

    PS: That German stove above, appears to come with a brass tank, now.

    PPS: I checked the Enders 2017 catalogue. It appears that it is all gas, now, no alcohol or kerosene stoves.

    Aaaargh!  Not again.  I'd have expected alcohol to be getting more popular.  Just shows how many people genuinely give a toss about the fate of their grandchildren!
  • 06 Apr 2017 10:02
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    Roy Denton wrote:

    The Hanse burner is available from Base-Camp in Littlehampton at a lower price, see here.  They are a one-man-and-his-wife operation, and their website is not easy to navigate, but they are knowledgeable and try to help.


    That Hanse burner looks to be a thing of beauty. It is of the silent type and has internal pricking needle. I see that the two top caps (which identify a silent burner) can even be had in ss. steel, which I recommend. For weekend sailing the black steel caps will last for years, but probably not in everyday use, as they get awfully hot (red-hot at full throttle).

    As for alcohol stoves, this one (HPV Salsa?) seems to be still in production in Germany. As I mentioned yesterday,  it isn’t very powerful at only 1000W, but the flame looks nice and blue, which indicates efficient use of the fuel, and probably also little soot on the kettles (my Origo stove is bad in this respect at full power, but has a blue flame on low setting). Now, I only just read and write well enough German to contact them, if I want to. Hopefully, somebody on the site can communicate in English. Before doing that, I will have a closer look at my Origo 3000 to see if I can improve it.

    Arne

     (Test on Youtube)


    Last modified: 06 Apr 2017 12:48 | Anonymous member (Administrator)
  • 06 Apr 2017 05:45
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    David Tyler wrote:

    Other names to look out for are TURM , NORMA and DESCA 

    These examples are old, and may or may not be worth taking the burner and tank and incorporating them into a seagoing body.

    I might not have been clear in my first post, most of the cookers in the ebay listings, including the Enders, aren't made any more.  However, once you know the the name of an old stove you like (thanks to David for adding more to the list), I have a good trick for finding one relatively easily if you're not in a big rush.  It will probably vary depending where you are in the world, but you can set Ebay, Craigslist, or probably your local "used for sale" website to do automatic searches for you.  Ebay is really easy, Craigslist uses an RSS feed you can setup in your e-mail with a quick cut and paste.  Once you know the name of what you want, you just let them alert you whenever one is posted.  I got my Maxie stove this way.  I bought it for $50 locally in Canada!

    For those who want immediate gratification, hopefully the Salsa Spirituskocher has nice brass burners.  If nothing else Spirituskocher is a ton of fun to say.  I've been saying all day for fun as I work on my new bow roller.

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