Galley alcohol, gas, diesel and induction cookers/ovens

  • 19 Aug 2024 11:10
    Reply # 13395388 on 1195343

    I've noticed there's a Kenyon 2 burner alcohol cooker, fitted with gimbals and fiddles, described as for parts or not working, on ebay UK. These have a pumped fuel tank, so might be interesting for those with a sense of adventure. The reviews I found on American forums are not very encouraging.

  • 18 Aug 2024 08:07
    Reply # 13395092 on 13394972
    Arne wrote:

    Chinese alcohol burner

    David Ty. points us to a Chinese (low-)pressurised alcohol stove. This made me curious.

    After having played around with the (single) burner’s data, and with my calculator, it appears to be quite good, and faster than my, now slightly de-tuned Origo’s numbers (5:44min to boil 0.5 litre of water)

    However, I think the maker’s claim that it boils 1.6l in 5 minutes, with a fuel consumption of only 200ml/h is a bit over the top. That would call for burner-kettle efficiency of 79%.
    I look forward to read David’s report when he has tested that thing, both at highest and lowest power setting.

    Arne


    I now have an estimated delivery date of 29th August, so I'd better order some bioethanol.
  • 17 Aug 2024 19:49
    Reply # 13394982 on 13394879
    Anonymous member (Administrator)
    Anonymous wrote:

    That thread from a few years back, on modified origo burners… Or was it a write up from you, Arne? 

    I can’t seem to find it. Can anyone point in the right direction?

    cheers. Frederik. 

    Try these threads 

    https://junkrigassociation.org/noticeboard_forum/8069377

    and

    https://junkrigassociation.org/yachtclubbar/487928?mlpg=16,16

  • 17 Aug 2024 19:05
    Reply # 13394972 on 1195343
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Chinese alcohol burner

    David Ty. points us to a Chinese (low-)pressurised alcohol stove. This made me curious.

    After having played around with the (single) burner’s data, and with my calculator, it appears to be quite good, and faster than my, now slightly de-tuned Origo’s numbers (5:44min to boil 0.5 litre of water)

    However, I think the maker’s claim that it boils 1.6l in 5 minutes, with a fuel consumption of only 200ml/h is a bit over the top. That would call for burner-kettle efficiency of 79%.
    I look forward to read David’s report when he has tested that thing, both at highest and lowest power setting.

    Arne


    Last modified: 17 Aug 2024 19:07 | Anonymous member (Administrator)
  • 17 Aug 2024 16:17
    Reply # 13394948 on 1195343

    Jeps. Great. Thanks Arne. 

  • 17 Aug 2024 09:13
    Reply # 13394880 on 13394879
    Anonymous member (Administrator)
    Frederik wrote:

    That thread from a few years back, on modified origo burners… Or was it a write up from you, Arne? 

    I can’t seem to find it. Can anyone point in the right direction?

    cheers. Frederik. 



    My very fresh conclusion about my Origo stoves can be found here...


    Arne


    Last modified: 17 Aug 2024 09:25 | Anonymous member (Administrator)
  • 17 Aug 2024 07:33
    Reply # 13394879 on 1195343

    That thread from a few years back, on modified origo burners… Or was it a write up from you, Arne? 

    I can’t seem to find it. Can anyone point in the right direction?

    cheers. Frederik. 

  • 16 Aug 2024 08:48
    Reply # 13394524 on 1195343
    I see that there's an Origo 3000 for sale on eBay UK, and an Origo 1500 for sale in the USA if anyone is looking for one.

    And it seems to be possible to get a new tank built to order. 

    Last modified: 16 Aug 2024 09:33 | Anonymous member
  • 16 Aug 2024 06:09
    Reply # 13394512 on 1195343

    Many thank to all of you for your input and ideas. This is the JRA at its best: people coming together to try and help each other.

    Asmat I know Nick’s system well. I really don’t want to have to go back to kero - that is a last resort - I like the fact that I can cook on bio ethanol. I’ve spent several years cooking on this sort of Primus: yes, you can produce meals, but it’s not a pleasure cooking in this way. As you say, the temperature is controlled by reducing the pressure, so when you want to simmer, you have to let off a lot of pressure. It’s a bit hit and miss and far too often the flame gets just that bit too cool and all of a sudden you have a sooty, orange, smelly flame instead of your nice, clean, blue one. I enjoy cooking. I don’t want to cook like this. Trangia are a possibility, but the tanks are small and I’d somehow have to make a cooker to hold them. I am no metal worker, and to be honest, I just want to buy a damn cooker that works. Call me entitled, but that doesn’t seem to me to be too much to ask! Unfortunately, I really enjoy my food, so Bill King’s solution wouldn’t suit me, although it would save me a lot of grief and money!

    Arne sadly, yes, I’m certain it’s a genuine Origo stove. I’m sure they usually last for years and I’m sure it’s my fault because I have the burners lit for too long a period of time because I am such a slow cook. And, of course, I’ve cooked around 2,000 meals on them, which is an awful lot of cooking compared to if you just have coffee and corn flakes in the morning and cook two meals on your weekend away.

    I must go back and check on your modified burner. I stopped watering the alcohol - someone suggested that this might be responsible for the corrosion (which, obviously, has been happening for some time), hence the dirty pots.

    Paul I really, really appreciate your feedback about the Salsa/Mamba. I’ve been following your blog and see that you and Toni enjoy cooking, so if you reckon that cooker is inadequate, I shall take that as a fact.

    David’s discovery is fascinating. The cookers look to be beautifully and robustly made, but I’m not sure how I would contrive them in my galley. I have no idea about working with metal and no facilities. Anyway, I have asked David to design me a cooker for FanShi as he was already intrigued by the concept. I reckon he has three years to perfect it because ...

    Graeme  has miraculously found an affordable Origo in NZ - and bought it on my behalf, bless him. So I now have two more tanks and when I’ve managed to destroy them, I’m hoping someone (David T???) will have created a genuine, seagoing, liveaboard alcohol cooker.

  • 15 Aug 2024 10:56
    Reply # 13394085 on 13394077
    Frank wrote:
    Annie wrote:

    I cook proper meals so need something better than a camping arrangement.  All sensible suggestions welcome.

    With LiFePo4 getting cheaper I thought about cooking with an induction hob and have been using one with shore power for the last months. I don't particularly like it. At least the cheaper portable ones I know are very noisy. There is always a big fan running at full speed even when simmering on lowest setting. They beep loudly when you lift the pot and stop working when water overflows. For the record, I can't recommend this. :/


    I take a very different view, Frank!

    At home, I wanted to move away from cooking with gas, for the sake of my health and to "Stop Burning Stuff" to reduce global warming, so I got an inexpensive single portable induction hob (Covercook brand) for trials, followed by a two-ring built in version (Klarstein). I like them both. The Covercook is a little noisy, true, but easy to use and very controllable. It has a maximum power of 2000W, but 1600W is enough to bring my pressure cooker up to pressure quickly, then 400W maintains pressure for the cooking time, and the timer is very useful, as it will turn the hob off. 

    So, on a large yacht, equipped with a wind turbine, plentiful solar panels, a large battery and a large pure sine wave inverter, I would go for an induction hob, without hesitation, probably from Sterling Power

    On a small boat without much generating capability, the best solution still has to be an alcohol cooker, though.

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