Watchkeeping, and the science of sleep

  • 10 Nov 2012 18:36
    Reply # 1134310 on 1116981
    I have an ICOM MA-500TR class B AIS (meaning it transmits and receives).
    Transmission can be turned off when not wanted.

    Power consumption when transmitting is 1.5A otherwise it is 0.7A. It transmits at 2Watts which is the norm for these devices.

    It has a built in GPS unit that will share it's output via NMEA and has it's own VHF antenna. While I do not yet have first hand experience with the unit on the water yet (splash day is Feb 2013), I did my homework and my experience with ICOM products over the years has been very satisfactory.
  • 10 Nov 2012 11:15
    Reply # 1134121 on 1116981
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    Yes Graham, I`m using a DIGITAL YACHT AIT 1000 transponder, which has now been superceded by the AIT 2000. I dont think the new unit is any more expensive ---- having said that  its afair bit of money----  about 500 pounds sterling---  which is still cheaper than stacking an oil tanker in fog!!!!!

    re transmitting power ,it could well use 25watts at the moment of transmission [same as VHF] but its only sending a short burst ,couple of times a minute.I have inadvertantly left bthe unit on, transmitting for days, never noticed any power drain

    we run a dead basic ship, no fancy electronics bar the AIS and a small plotter and if it fails ,its not a problem we just go back to how weve always sailed .you can suffer from information overload as I`ve said before on this subject --  its as well to reduce the range or you can pick up unecessary signals from 30 or 40 miles away! maybe sometimes its not a bad thing NOT to know how many cargoes are out there! On balance, I like it  tony RON GLAS 

  • 10 Nov 2012 04:59
    Reply # 1133997 on 1133383
    Tony & Sally Summers wrote:Graham,Annie, you mentioned that AIS uses a lot of power ----  do they? Ijust looked up the consumption figures on my transponder and it is supposed to average 4 watts. Its also possible to switch the transmit function off until a "target" presents an issue. I tend to pick up targets at about 10 miles range so have over 30 minutes to decide whether to activate transmit, if our courses appear to be converging.Mine is also a stand alone unit with its own GPS built in, and a dedicated aerial ---  friends have all reported problems with splitters on the ships VHF. Not having radar[where do you put the radome on a junk?] I still think its a great bit of kit, especially in thick weather. Tony RON GLAS

    Thanks for your feedback Tony, it is very interesting to hear from people who have experience with it.  My advice came from an electronics engineer who chose to put a receiver on his yacht because he claimed that an AIS transmitter would use 2.5 amps, which would equate to 25 watts in a 12 volt system.  Perhaps it only uses 25 watts - if it does - when it is actually transmitting and the average consumption is much lower.  If it is in standby mode most of the time that would certainly reduce power consumption.  I have not yet done my own research but will do so before choosing a system in 2013.  A transmitter certainly is the best option if you have the power to run it. I spoke to an Australian Reef Pilot recently - he pilots ships through the Great Barrier Reef - and he said he found it extremely helpful when he crossed paths with a yacht using an AIS transmitter, since it gave him the yacht's speed and course and allowed him to take effective action much sooner.

    Sensible use of electronics can greatly enhance our ability to keep an effective lookout, especially if singlehanded or short-handed, though I must admit to a hankering for the old days when I sailed without engine, electrics or electronics, relying, like John Guzzwell and Annie Hill, on a combination of luck and good judgement as to when it was safe to snooze, and when you should spend the night on deck, which I have done on many occasions, especially when in dense coastal shipping lanes.  Life was a lot simpler back then - and cheaper - but I accept that I am unlikely to return to such Arcadian days.

    Tony, can you advise what AIS system you have installed?     
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  • 09 Nov 2012 14:44
    Reply # 1133466 on 1133383
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    Tony & Sally Summers wrote:where do you put the radome on a junk?
    Maybe here?
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  • 09 Nov 2012 10:30
    Reply # 1133383 on 1116981
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    Graham,Annie, you mentioned that AIS uses a lot of power ----  do they? Ijust looked up the consumption figures on my transponder and it is supposed to average 4 watts. Its also possible to switch the transmit function off until a "target" presents an issue. I tend to pick up targets at about 10 miles range so have over 30 minutes to decide whether to activate transmit, if our courses appear to be converging.Mine is also a stand alone unit with its own GPS built in, and a dedicated aerial ---  friends have all reported problems with splitters on the ships VHF. Not having radar[where do you put the radome on a junk?] I still think its a great bit of kit, especially in thick weather. Tony RON GLAS
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  • 08 Nov 2012 19:37
    Reply # 1132899 on 1116981
    On my six-day passage to N Island, I took much more the Guzzwell approach.  There were several reasons for this: firstly I was in a relatively-unfrequented part of the ocean (off the west coast of North Island); secondly, in the unlikely event of colliding with another vessel, my 2.5 tonne, 26 footer would undoubtedly come off worse (unless the other boat happened to be Trekka! And truly the chances of two small boats hitting one another in an empty ocean must be infintesimal.  I do not regard the various 'milk runs' as empty ocean.); thirdly I'm a bad sleeper at the best of times and particularly in daylight: better to get sleep when I could, to be refreshed when I had to deal with Cape Reinga and North Cape, especially knowing I'd be waking regularly anyway; fourthly, I wanted to enjoy my first offshore passage!!

    On the other hand, we were moving relatively slowly and I looked out fairly often.  I too, have a nice, bright LED masthead light, although I don't hold out too many hopes that anyone on a ship is keeping a visual lookout.

    I've sailed with AIS on Iron Bark and it is impressive, especially in fog, but depends on one having a fixed GPS, so the initial costs are not to be sniffed at.  Nor is the power consumption.  I wouldn't call myself a risk-taker, but will admit to being blithely irresponsible.  Just before anyone else says it.
  • 08 Nov 2012 14:44
    Reply # 1132638 on 1116981
    You might also consider a Sea Me type Radar Target Enhancer, nowadays available to cover X and S bands.  They are relatively cheap and straight forward to install ie all the works are in the reasonably sized aerial and the aerial only requires a thin 12 vote line "supplied with the aerial) run to it.  They use next to no electricity on stand by and only operate and use a little electricity when pinged by an incoming radar.  The switch has a red indicator light which flashes when it is pinged but you can also have a bleeper turned on.  I found that the bleeper is enough to wake me up.  
  • 08 Nov 2012 12:55
    Reply # 1132561 on 1116981
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    Kathy and I have used a three on and three off rotation with similar results to Annie and Pete's experiences. However I tend to awaken whenever Easy Go needs some adjustments to her sail plan or weather conditions are changing before Kathy makes the changes. Kathy is hesitant in decision making when it comes to altering sails so I am doing the majority of the work under sail while she does most of the food prep which is minimal on passage. I end up seldom getting an entire off watch sleep and have adopted a napping and quick to REM style of getting rest. Getting horizontal as often as possible also helps as a meditative state is nearly as restful as full sleep. I find that most problems occur at sun up and sun set so schedule myself to be awake at those times to make the necessary changes to have a good rest later on. I also find that if I am getting a little too tired and the mind is getting foggy heaving too to get a good uninterrupted sleep is of great value. About once every ten days and just before making landfall has worked quite well.

    With some long distance solo trips in the planning I have installed an AIS transceiver. I'm looking to use this during the sleeping times to, hopefully, give some advance notice of a potential collision. This would not have been possible if I had not installed a motor to generate electricity as I understand that they are substantial energy consumers. Another one of the compromises!

    As far as sleep schedules go when alone, I'll have to report back on that after a few long trips.
  • 08 Nov 2012 05:14
    Reply # 1132463 on 1116981
    The system used on Badger is ideal for a couple who can both handle the boat.  Three hours seems about right.  I have been in that situation myself for a few, delightful passages, and I am deeply envious of my friends who have such cruising partnerships.  I once sailed as part of a competent crew of three and we did four hours on and eight off.  There was plenty of time to rest off watch but the watches themselves were sometimes a bit of a struggle, particularly when it was cold, wet and rough.  Perhaps if we'd been junk rigged with a Jester pramhood things would have been different.

    Singlehanders, of course, face a different set of challenges.  I have always adhered to Blondie Hasler's advice that you should take to your bunk if you are not tending to body or ship. I have found that if I get my head down as soon as possible, BEFORE I get tired, I can manage very well with short naps for extended periods.  I feel amazingly refreshed after a 10 minute nap, have a quick look around, do what has to be done and get straight back to my bunk.  I am a reluctant riser ashore (monsters under the bed) but at sea it is not a problem, perhaps because - with luck - I know I will be back in my bunk before it gets cold.  When I am well offshore and have not seen a ship in ages, I relax a bit and sometimes spend 30 minutes in my bunk.  Jumping up to have a quick look at things though remains an easy thing to do and I go back to sleep almost immediately - I suspect that I am not even fully awake most of the time I am up unless I have to do something.

    Not everybody has this ability to catnap though.  I have known others who say it makes them slide into exhausted stupidity.  Phillippe Jeantot, who won the BOC round the world race twice, and who started the Vendee Globe race, found he need to sleep for an hour at a time to get any benefit.  At the opposite extreme, I have known some singlehanders who spend all night in their bunks and adopt a fatalistic approach.  These sailors include the great John Guzzwell, of Trekka fame, among others.

    Before I go off on another long singlehanded haul I plan to fit an AIS system, (a receiver at least since the transmitters use a lot of power) and I feel that this will greatly assist singlehanded watchkeeping.  It won't protect me from other vessels without a functioning AIS of course but it will greatly reduce the odds.  I will still jump up for a look around at every available opportunity though.  I also keep a very bright set of LED navigation lights burning, so other small craft should be able to see me unless they are fellow singlehanders, and therefore tarred with the same brush.
    Last modified: 08 Nov 2012 05:16 | Anonymous member
  • 07 Nov 2012 20:16
    Reply # 1132125 on 1116981
    When Pete and I sailed Badger, we kept a watchkeeping system of three on and three off.  This worked wonderfully well for us and we were never tired.  Of course we could both sail the boat singlehanded.  We had a bit of a roll-over to allow for the five or ten minutes at change of watch, so it tended to run from about 1900 to 0800.  The nice thing about the 'thirteen-hour' night, was it meant we could have our two 'proper' meals together.  Pete assembled breakfast and then turned in for a couple of hours.  We were both up for a time then, and then I cooked the main meal after turning in for a couple of hours in the afternoo.  We ate this and tidied up and then both of us were about for a few more hours before Pete turned in and the whole thing started again.  This system also allowed for extra sleep if we needed it, but in practice we never did - although I am a chronic insomniac, but find that the time in bed seems to suffice, whether I'm awake or asleep.  Because we'd only had two meals, having a snack on watch didn't dig into supplies or mean we were eating more than we needed to.

    On Iron Bark things were much less satisfactory, because of often having to call Trevor, who then would frequently stay up 'to see how things were'.  I was never quite sure whether to turn in and leave him to it, or to stay up because he should be back in his bunk.  Yet another advantage of JR.

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