Galley alcohol, gas, diesel and induction cookers/ovens

  • 05 Apr 2017 22:33
    Reply # 4718005 on 1195343
    Deleted user

    The Hanse burner is available from Base-Camp in Littlehampton at a lower price, see here.  They are a one-man-and-his-wife operation, and their website is not easy to navigate, but they are knowledgeable and try to help.

  • 05 Apr 2017 21:27
    Reply # 4717898 on 1195343

    I purchased one of the St Paul Mercantile stoves to replace the alcohol seaswing stove in my previous boat. It is a loud "roarer" burner which I do not think is totally bad. You can definitely hear if the flame goes out unexpectedly. This lets you attend to the stove before it starts oozing kerosene everywhere. It is also possible to adjust the flame height just by listening to it instead of looking under the pot while it is cooking.

    It does not have an internal pricker. It comes with a few external cleaning picks. Getting any type of burner with an built-in cleaning pick is a big step up in price. 

    I think the burner at the link below will screw directly on to the stove from St Paul Mercantile. The burner is significantly more expensive than the stove:

    http://www.sparesmarine.co.uk/webshop/cookers/028-paraffin-cooker/all-spares/taylors-ctk1035p4ger-paraffin-burner-assembly-complete-4-leg/

    I definitely recommend building an wick to preheat the stove with alcohol as James Baldwin suggests:

    http://www.atomvoyages.com/gallery/photo-gallery/image.raw?view=image&type=orig&id=108

    It is much easier and safer to light the stove using this tool.

    Scott.




  • 05 Apr 2017 20:38
    Reply # 4717830 on 4717641
    Peter Scandling wrote:

    While investigating the kerosene stove option I was told that the best burners are a German product, self pricking and of course made from good quality materials. 

    Do you know which German product? As far as i know there is only the kerosene stove from "Hanse". Nice but slightly out of our budget range ...

    Frank


  • 05 Apr 2017 19:12
    Reply # 4717641 on 1195343

    While investigating the kerosene stove option I was told that the best burners are a German product, self pricking and of course made from good quality materials.  The problem with buying stuff from India and/or China is that unless it's custom made the materials will generally be of the cheapest variety. 

    I have still have close contacts in China who can make items to a specific design on a small scale, but the design work and detail need to be exact.....  

    Peter

  • 05 Apr 2017 14:16
    Reply # 4716862 on 1195343
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    I looked up that stove. It looks like a straight copy of one of the earlier Optimuses. It appears that it has not an internal pricking needle, but on the other, hand the jets, or nipples as called here, are cheap, so by buying a few of them for spares, one should do well. I also notice that this is the noisy type of burner. That would be just fine for me, nowadays...

    Check if it has been demonstrated on YouTube.

    Arne

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  • 05 Apr 2017 14:02
    Reply # 4716842 on 1195343
    Deleted user

    Well, that answers Jim's question about 5 pages down this thread :)

    Chris

  • 05 Apr 2017 13:43
    Reply # 4716209 on 1195343
    Deleted user

    All,

    I contacted James Baldwin who used to convert a kerosene stove to a gimbaled version.

    Attached is a link to what he considers the best kerosene stove available.

    http://stpaulmercantile.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=73&products_id=216&zenid=u08ga6dd085l4t6vdkji3c56c1

    Dennis

  • 05 Apr 2017 12:34
    Reply # 4714289 on 1195343
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    In haste;

    here is the link to the German shop which sells all kinds of traditional lamps, stoves and wotnot.

    The alcohol stove (1 or two burners) is shown here:

    Each burner only puts out 1kW, but for small work and simmering it must be good, and thanks to its oxygen-rich blue flame, I beet it is more economical in use  -  and produces probably much less soot, as well.

    The alcohol burner I bough (from India) was of the little dish type. I liked that it has a screw-on tight lid, which lets one shut it down after use and use the remaining alcohol later. The idea was to see if I could later find a way to feed this little thing from a tank below (via one of those dose pumps).

    Arne

    PS: That German stove above, appears to come with a brass tank, now.

    PPS: I checked the Enders 2017 catalogue. It appears that it is all gas, now, no alcohol or kerosene stoves.


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  • 05 Apr 2017 10:30
    Reply # 4713186 on 1195343

    The burners and plumbing of the Salsa stove (sounds like a side-dish!) look very promising, if they really are brass and not just brass-plated.  You could replace the tank and frame later if they showed signs of deterioration.  Definitely on my watch list.

  • 05 Apr 2017 09:04
    Reply # 4713056 on 4712817
    Darren Bos wrote:

    I learned a new word tonight, "spirituskocher".  Apparently the Germans have been making Maxie-type stoves for some time.  Searching spirituskocher on ebay.de yielded results for quite a few stoves that work like a Maxie, even a nice stainless unit by a company called Enders.  Most of these you would just take the burner and maybe the tank, and then build yourself a new enclosure.

    This is very interesting.  Trust the Germans to make them.  The Enders looks neat, but of course you would have to find someone to make sea rails, etc, for it.

    I also found a new stove available on Amazon as well as some camping stores, it is called a Spirituskocher Salsa.  The burner is similar to the Maxie, but it has a nice brass appearance to it.  Maybe it would be longer lived than the Maxie burner?

    Here is a link to a review of the Salsa stove that gives some nice detailed pics of the burner.  Here is a video of the same stove for those who are wondering how these stoves work or those who would like to see the details of the inside of the burner (look around 6:45 in the video).

    I'm not sure how long-lived the framework of the Salsa would be, but powder coated steel should last long enough to figure out if you want to build a nice stainless body for the burners.   For 65 Euro for the one burner model (105 Euro for the two burner) maybe someone is interested in the experiment.

    I thought this stove looked pretty good.  I don't reckon that powder coating compares with enamel, but those old two-burner enamelled Primus cookers lasted half a century and more.  The problem with the Salsa is the steel tank: alcohol is wet, not oily.  I'd be worried about rust, long term.  However, the price is much more reasonable than all the other cookers I've been looking at.  I'm tempted to try.  Thank you for going to the trouble to research all this, Darren.  Ain't the internet wonderful?
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