JRA VIDEO PROJECT - “WE ARE JUNK RIGGERS” - invitation

  • 14 Jun 2025 09:05
    Reply # 13510271 on 13496888
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Written word contra videos.

    First of all, how much should we promote our rigs? Some write about the JR as if it were important to spread the word about it. I am sceptical to that. Promoting the JR can easily sound like bad-mouthing the other rigs (‘pointy rigs’)

    Since the JR is not important to the world, compared to peace on Earth, democracy etc., I don’t bother with loudly ‘Spreading the Word’ about it. I am in the live-and-let-live league.

    This may look odd, since I have played a lot with this rig over the last 35 years, and also written a fair bit about it. I may even have sounded enthusiastic here and there. OK, I am enthusiastic; I enjoy immensely sailing my Ingeborg with this rig, and when people contact me or ask me, I gladly tell about the rig, or take them for a sail.

    Over the years, I have mainly focused on learning to make the rig work well, without making it too complicated or expensive.

    Then I write about it. Write.
    There are many DIY-subjects, like cooking, baking, sewing or boatbuilding. I find that I have never made a dish, baked a cake, sewed anything or built any boat from watching TV (or videos). On the other hand, I have made some dinners taken from cooking books, baked a couple of cakes from baking books, and I even got started in making my own sails from books like Practical Junk Rig and Sailmaker’s Apprentice.

    Therefore, I bet showing my face on a video, with me jabbering about the virtues of the JR, in my best Stavanger-English, will not make anyone want to convert their boats to JR.
    I stick to writing.
    This recent video of Ingeborg is mainly meant to be used as mental vitamins for myself during long dark winters.

    Anyway,
    good luck.

    Arne

    Video in Djunkerigga IF Ingerborg sommar 2025 - Google Photos



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  • 14 Jun 2025 04:37
    Reply # 13510245 on 13496888

      Guys, thanks! It's a thread, and seems to have gone off to become a thread...  Points of view, of what is a selfie for me? yet my Junk Rig brother can't imagine taking part in such self loving and exposure.... Understood! Valid Point!!

      We could go down the path of how people are wired, we could drift miles off topic...

    Or we could just take part, Tony and Graham have provided great material so I want to thank them both, many more too should be acknowledged for sending material and offering help, but that will get done on the Video, so we can stay on topic...

    What were we talking about???

    Oh, PHOTOS+TEXT=Happy Rael+Lot's to DO

    That's what we were talking about, 3 best photos, and write what ever you want.

    So Nic suggests an interview... No Problem!


    1. what's your name? 

    2. what's your boats name?

    3.where do you sail?

    4. WHY? Why are you a Junk Rigger? What's your problem? Why can't you just be normal and sail a Bermuda? Were you born like this, or is this a result of trauma? 

    Please fill the form and send in your application by the 15.07.25

    Keep Junking guys,

    Oceanic Lateens landed me on the rocks, I got so cut up, that was my worst day at sea, Trauma haunted me down, I became a Junk Rigger to save my soul...

    That's why I'm here

    Rael

    P.S. Let's keep sending vids and images to Kevin Cardiff at: chair@junkrig.org 

  • 14 Jun 2025 03:39
    Reply # 13510226 on 13496888

    My two cents. I personally do not like selfies, feels a bit "narcissistic" and I have a feeling that a lot of our age group feels the same.

    BUT, being interviewed feels quite different. So maybe trying that approach? 

    It should be around 3 minutes, because under that I know a lot of people can't be bothered watching. A family member or a friend can do the interview. 

    Well, that was 3 cents actually  :-D

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  • 14 Jun 2025 00:07
    Reply # 13510192 on 13496888
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    I am just wondering if the webmaster would consider shifting the recent posts into a new thread - "Thoughts about future directions for JRA in the world of social media" - or some such thing.

    Two reasons: it's time to start thinking about these things. I'm working on the magazine at the moment and the question constantly on my mind is, how can the print magazine (and the JRA itself) continue to be relevant in today's world? I had a bit of an epiphany (more about that later).

    The other reason is: it's off topic. The thread was started by Rael who is making a last minute appeal for photographs, text, voice-over, video clips, selfies - any media directed towards rejoicing in the junk rig, that he can edit into a promotional video. Come on folks - time is running out. Support Rael's project. Cheers.

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  • 13 Jun 2025 13:25
    Reply # 13509937 on 13496888

    Thank you Graeme and Neil; you both make some very good points. I may have been stirring the pot a bit, but I certainly think it's helped me, at least, reflect on things JRA :)

  • 13 Jun 2025 09:25
    Reply # 13509897 on 13496888

    Just a few broader thoughts to throw into the mix.

    I’m mostly in agreement with most of what’s already been said, especially the bit about the JRA being more educational than evangelical. I think that’s spot on. I’ve never felt any need to “promote” junk rig in a wider sense. It either speaks to you or it doesn’t. It’ll never be mainstream. It’s always been a niche, and that’s OK. The people who come to it usually do so for very specific, personal reasons. Trying to convert others is an entirely different undertaking to simply keeping a space going for those who already get it. I think the value of the JRA lies in doing the latter really well.

    I like having my own blog because it gives me the freedom to write in my own way, on my own terms. I can follow threads as they come to me, without worrying about deadlines or structure, and I can share the ups and downs of my sailing life in real time. It’s personal. I sail a junk rig boat, yes, but that’s by the by. If I help or encourage someone else to look consider junk rig along the way, that’s a bonus.

    I also agree with the point about how hard it is to get people to contribute, even when they’ve got great stories or knowledge to share. It’s not that they’re unwilling, just that not everyone is comfortable putting themselves forward, be it in writing or on video. I’ve found that, too. So one thing we might need to look at is the way we invite those contributions. The tone and format matter more than we sometimes realise.

    And I do want to gently mention the website and forum. I know how much work goes into keeping that sort of thing running, especially when it’s full of valuable history and contributions. But it’s also the first thing new people see. Right now, it looks dated, it’s a bit clunky to use, and it doesn’t quite reflect the depth and care that actually exists in the community. That might seem like a minor point, but it really isn’t, first impressions count. 

    I also get the sense that the JRA has a core demographic, probably mostly male and mostly over 50. That’s not a problem in itself, but it does shape how we engage and communicate. Print media and traditional forums still feel familiar and comfortable for many of us. But we do need to evolve, enough to make it easier for new people to join in, or for existing members to contribute in ways that suit them better.


    Anyway, no grand solutions here, just adding a few thoughts that feel relevant. I think the JRA still has a lot of value, but maybe we need to be a bit more honest and thoughtful about where we’re at and how we move forward from here.

  • 13 Jun 2025 06:12
    Reply # 13509890 on 13496888
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    I am pretty much in agreement with the sentiments expressed by Tony in the previous post, and have a possible answer some of his concerns - but I hope he is not referring to me when he writes: "In recent times, I've heard criticisms of junk rig sailors running their own blogs."

    The reason for me responding in this way is: I have had a bit to say recently about junk rig sailers running their own blogs, but not in the least intended as criticism. I have never seen any such criticism so I am not sure who he is referring to, but I would not like to be associated with it. What I have said is that one of the problems faced by our print magazine is competition from people who, these days, prefer to post to their own blogs, or to other social media such as facebook, or the JRA Forum. That is a lament, not a criticism. Good on them, I say. The print magazine needs to adapt to this.

    [Edit: this is not a rebuttal. I understand what Tony means, and welcome his post. I just wanted to grab the opportunity to clarify some things I have, perhaps rather clumsily,  said. Thanks Tony.] 

    Problem is, I am not sure, at this point in time, how to do so (adapt to the competition, that is.). Anyway, that's another story. (It occurs to me that Rael's media initiative shows the sort of lateral thinking that the Magazine Committee needs to be looking for).

    Also, while I support Rael's project, including it's promotional aspects, I personally do not have any interest in promoting the junk rig in any evangelical sense. I would prefer to think that the JRA is educational rather than promotional. We should be promoting good practice, and promulgating good information. [Very much along the lines of the sort of contribution made by "do-ers" and "achievers" like Tony.]

    Most of us understand that some of the reasons for the predominance of the bermudan rig are its place in the world of racing, general laziness in thinking outside the norm, and a preference for conformity and following others, all reinforced by the recreational boating industry, commercial print media and its leaning towards financial reward (and you don't make much money selling battens, bamboo and rope to junk rig DIY aficionados). That is understandable. Another reason, or course, is that the bermudan rig is pretty well-proven (to say the least). The junk rig will eventually have to find its place, on its merits, if it has any. I think that is happening.

    It is an interesting irony, that when the junk rig begins to approach "main stream", there will be no more Junk Rig Association. No need. Where is the Bermudan Rig Association? The more successfully the JR is promoted, the less need there will (eventually) be for the JRA. We are still a long way from that, but perhaps the slowing of support for junk-rig-promoting activities (which is discernable) is a sign that the rig is starting to become main stream. In the recreational sailing dinghy and small cruiser world today, I would say the main "competitor" of the JR is the suite of other quadrilateral rigs such as the re-emerging gaff, sprit and especially the western lug - no longer the bermudan. 

    (And in the rarefied atmostphere of modern yacht racing, the pointy top is already passé. Perhaps the day will come, in the distant future (if the planet has one) when a small group of non-conforming marconi-rig enthusiasts will need to start up an association to prevent the impending extinction of their historic rig! Sorry, I keep digressing).

    Where I most agree with Tony (aside from his current huge, extremely valuable contribution-in-the-background to the magazine, of which few people will be aware) is his urging of members to support Rael's project by contributing media. You know what is needed.

    My dabbling with Boat of the Month, and recently the magazine, has confirmed and reminded me of something I have known from decades ago, back in the Ferrocement Association days. That is, you can have a society of good, thoughtful and intelligent people, but getting the rank and file to contribute their knowledge and experience is a bit like pulling teeth. It's not because people are selfish - its just that many good people don't like to push themselves forward, but prefer to maintain a slightly humble and modest demeanour. We should not be critical of that, but instead, continue to be encouraging. It's time-consuming but just something we have to accept - good people sometimes need a lot of nudging!

    One of the reasons for the lack of media being received by Rael (though I hope the situation is changing) is that trying to get modest people to make selfies is a bit of a hard ask. Some of us are a bit self-conscious about doing that sort of thing. I can't do it, and I'm not even modest. May I suggest an alternative (I think Rael is already turning toward this): people - dig out your good photographs or your home-made video clips, and send them to Rael. And send some written text he can use with it, if you (like me) don't like doing a voice-over.

    Some of the bloggers and social media posters, who are the subject of this post, have been producing excellent home-made video clips of late.

    Send them to Rael.


    [PS: And Rael (I can't miss this opportunity!) - when the media project is complete, and when you have recovered from your proposed voyage (or before, if you like) - how about a Boat of the Month, or a magazine article on the subject of shunting junk rigged proas?]


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  • 12 Jun 2025 22:36
    Reply # 13509779 on 13496888

    Oh dear, oh dear, what a noble project, and yet...

    Dear members, I have been a member here since the mid 90s; OK, I left and came back again in 2017. In recent months, I've had a bit to do with the organisational side of things, and, from what I garner, all is not well.

    Clearly, the Bermuda rig is the predominant rig in the western world of yacht sailing, and yet we know that the junk rig has so much to offer and really could compete as a sailing rig. The junk rig should have far more appreciation than it has now.

    So, how do we promote the junk rig (or do we even want to?). Sadly, it seems the JRA in its current guise is not succeeding. The flagship magazine gets too few readers, and they are probably already converts; the forum is largely populated by the same few people; as an evangelist group, we are not doing so very well. And, it cannot be denied that, in order to attract new and younger members (clearly needed for a sustainable association), we almost certainly need to embrace new media.

    In recent times, I've heard criticisms of junk rig sailors running their own blogs. But surely, the prime reason people run their own blogs, as opposed to publishing via the JRA, is that they wish to attract a wider audience, ie. non converts! In terms of promoting the junk rig, this cannot possibly be seen as being a bad thing!

    And yet, here we are. An excellent opportunity to be a part in the creation of a video highlighting the benefits of the junk rig; all you need to do is shoot a simple bit of video or a few photos on your phone; it'll be up on YouTube for all the world to see and will clearly show the love we have for this rig. And yet, as of the last published count (and I am no part in this project), only 7 of us have managed to contribute.

    It was my dad's funeral last week. He was the last president of the Sussex Chrysanthemum Society. He dedicated his life to the growing and development of show chrysanthemums. His flowers were truly beautiful. The society is no more. If we can't pull our fingers out, we'll go the same way! My 25 year old daughter, a true junk rig sailor, who probably has more junk rig sailing miles under her belt than the vast majority of members here, can't see the point in joining this association. Even at only 7 quid a year...

    Last modified: 12 Jun 2025 23:08 | Anonymous member
  • 11 Jun 2025 20:22
    Reply # 13509276 on 13496888

    Boys and girls, fellow Junk rig sailors, riggers and lovers...

    Let's make a Junk Rig Vid, watch the vid below please, and send us some photos, we need some spice in the salad....

    More selfie vids are welcome, Photos are a must. send us images of smiling u on your ship, or, your ship with canvas aloft, flat sails, cambered sails, 1 mast, 6 masts, beam reaching, hard on it... It's all good!!!

    On the 15.07.2025 I will start editing, so that will be the final date for adding new material. Let's keep sending vids and images to Kevin Cardiff at: chair@junkrig.org 

    Below is a vid explaining what to do... Keep junking

    Balkan Shipyards

    https://youtu.be/3Ih7hiaWotE?si=WcTr7zOFHNzm_IBR

  • 03 Jun 2025 06:28
    Reply # 13506058 on 13496888

    Good morning all, we are at the Black sea preparing the ship for the splash...

    We have great vids, 7 and counting... I love the latest vids of Tony and Hazel because they selfied them selves sailing, beautiful stuff, thanks guys.

    As Kevin mentioned above it's simple, and since we are members of the JRA we are all Junk Riggers!

    So, let's talk about the final Video for a bit. A colourful Junk Rig compilation of the community inorder to celebrate diversity. That's it, getting to know each other and spread the word, Junks are great!

    Bottom line, we would like more info, so, a nother way members could take part would be by sending in images of their ships showing the rig, these images could be added into the video inorder to enhance interest and keep viewers watching... 

    So we want your help, let's make a great vid, send us a minute of your time in a selfie vid, or send us your best Photos, and don't forget to add your name and your boats name, a happy crew on a Junk is a priceless image, a nother of the ship, and surely 1 of the sail...

    Thank you 

    Keep Junking 

    Balkan Shipyards