Parrel chafe

  • 01 Feb 2026 23:21
    Reply # 13592793 on 13590538

    Very nice Jes

  • 01 Feb 2026 15:10
    Reply # 13592634 on 13592242
    Anonymous wrote:

    Thanks David and Arne,

    That's really helped me think. 

    Attached is the actual batten pockets and the red line shows the rough length of wear. I think I will hot knife the material at 90⁰ just beyond the end of wear (blue).  That gives me two flaps which I can fit grommets in with matching ones on leather, make it wide enough that I can fit a suitable pvc padding pipe around batten. All without taking sail down!

    (Basically what David said!)

    Hi Dan, I did a junk rig conversion a year ago. For my battens I used 22mm aluminium tube and there was a gap in the batten pocket where there would be contact with the mast. To pad this part I glued a piece of camping mat foam around the tube using contact adhesive, and then covered this in heatshrink tube. I did the same as padding for my yard and boom which are made of 40mm aluminium tube.  This worked well for my 2025 season of sailing.
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  • 31 Jan 2026 11:53
    Reply # 13592242 on 13590538

    Thanks David and Arne,

    That's really helped me think. 

    Attached is the actual batten pockets and the red line shows the rough length of wear. I think I will hot knife the material at 90⁰ just beyond the end of wear (blue).  That gives me two flaps which I can fit grommets in with matching ones on leather, make it wide enough that I can fit a suitable pvc padding pipe around batten. All without taking sail down!

    (Basically what David said!)

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  • 31 Jan 2026 11:13
    Reply # 13592229 on 13590538

    Dan, I think the answer is simple: there shouldn't be a pocket where the batten contacts the mast. I’d cut through the pocket vertically, both fore and aft of the mast line, and feed the batten back into the pocket through one end of the pocket, over the top of the chafed portion, and then though the other end of the pocket. Before doing that, though, I’d have to find a solution to fendering the batten, and not the sail. With 1 ¼” and 1 ½” batten tube, it’s easy - just use lengths of 32mm and 40mm ABS plumbing waste pipe (ABS because it has lower friction than PVC, but PVC is almost as good). This doesn’t have to pass through a tight pocket, so no difficulty there. If your battens are larger, in diameter, or not round, then it becomes a question of deciding how to add a fender. Leather, hand stitched around the tube as for leathering an oar, would be the traditional method. PVC hose works, but there’s a lot of friction and squeakiness.

  • 30 Jan 2026 19:02
    Reply # 13591953 on 13590538
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Dan,

    Here is another suggestion (..it is easy to be brave in one’s armchair…).

    What about ripping the batten pockets at the mast from end to end along their middle? That would let you stitch on full-length patches, wide enough to make room for padding the battens along the mast. You could start with the lowest batten in the mizzen, the one you reef away first. As each patch will take an hour or two to make, you could fix one batten at a time, at leisure.

    I bet that basting tape will be helpful in holding the patch in position while you slowly do the hand-stitching (again, with the sail on the boat).

    Good luck!

    Arne


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  • 29 Jan 2026 19:48
    Reply # 13591406 on 13590538

    Thanks Arne and Tony,

    Sebastian at Tuchwerkstatt did make the pockets out of heavier material but I guess 3,700 miles killed them anyway. The pockets sadly are tight on my 38mm battens - with hindsight it would have been so nice to have enough room to put some sort of sleeve,  just up by the mast if for no other reason but to reduce the banging noise against the mast!

    Going to remedy for a bit by judiciously ignoring it.  And then see if I can create a sacrificial attachment solution.

  • 29 Jan 2026 14:33
    Reply # 13591183 on 13590538
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Dan, so good to learn about your successful trans-Atlantic voyage!

    I have only sailed my junks inshore, so have never experienced this problem. However, I have always made the batten pockets at the mast from a tougher material than the sail itself. I have used quite thick pvc material; the same as I use on the yard and boom, where they rub on the mast. I would consider to just stitch patches over the longish holes, still with the sail rigged. I would use long (20mm?) stiches (curved needle), as they see little load. When a patch wear through, it will be quick to replace it with another one.

    When making new sails for offshore cruising, I would pad the (aluminium) batten with some soft 10mm material, and then make the forward batten pocket roomy enough for this. This should increase the contact surface between battens and mast, and thus reduce wear.

    Good luck!

    Arne

    PS:
    As for batten parrels, I soon changed my first 10mm ropes for 20mm webbing, as the latter don't catch each others when hoisting sail.

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  • 29 Jan 2026 13:06
    Reply # 13591113 on 13590538
    Anonymous wrote:

    How do you guys deal with chafe of the parrels against the mast?  My sails were made and have a nice heavier fabric where the battens rest (rub) against the mast.  But after my transatlantic I have chafed through to the aluminium batten in about a 12" stretch.

    I am thinking something leather to attach with grommets or something to create a sacrificial chafe guard.  

    I am thinking this must be a common problem so rather than reinventing the wheel...

    Many thanks in advance,

    Dan

    Are you referring to chafe of the sail batten pocket here, Dan. If so, I have the same issue and have dealt with it so far by ignoring it. If it gets worse, I guess I'll sew or attach some leather or the like as chafe guard (as you say).
  • 28 Jan 2026 13:12
    Message # 13590538

    How do you guys deal with chafe of the parrels against the mast?  My sails were made and have a nice heavier fabric where the battens rest (rub) against the mast.  But after my transatlantic I have chafed through to the aluminium batten in about a 12" stretch.

    I am thinking something leather to attach with grommets or something to create a sacrificial chafe guard.  

    I am thinking this must be a common problem so rather than reinventing the wheel...

    Many thanks in advance,

    Dan