modifying a Sangria to junkrig

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  • 17 Mar 2026 17:37
    Reply # 13610615 on 13487971
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Jacques,

    I admit that I am not too enthusiastic about 3-D-printing these batten ends for junkrigs. You will soon find that the shown batten end fitting lacks a hoop or something for tying on the sail itself.
    The photo below shows the leech end of the battens for Ingeborg’s sail. Crude, maybe, but quick, simple and strong. The bolts also let one lash the sail’s leech flush with the batten ends.

    There is another, even simpler way, which I have seen in Stavanger: Both batten ends were just given biggish holes where needed. After grinding off any sharp edges, the sail was tied directly to the battens via these holes. The bolts for tying on the sheetlets were kept, but the owner didn’t bother with those chain stubs.

    With the 2-3mm Dyneema lines available today, this direct sail-to-batten connection should hold forever.

    (Full size photo in section 8 of my Album photos)

    Last modified: 17 Mar 2026 17:41 | Anonymous member (Administrator)
  • 16 Mar 2026 23:05
    Reply # 13610344 on 13574608
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:

    Jacques,

    As it happens, I am designing a deck ring assembly for another JRA member, to suit a 7 inch tube which is very close in diameter to your 18cm mast. The components are to be 3D printed in suitable plastics for outdoor use. He is planning to join a 200mm tapered tube to this 7 inch tube as indicated in the drawings, but it would be just as good to make a hybrid mast using the 7 inch tube, or just to use an 18cm tapered tube as you are doing.  Would you be interested in joining the project? 

    Hello David, 

    I am interested in joining these project ( File N° 1).

    I printed "30mm+aft+end+plug.stl " - file enclosed- What are the 2 drillings for?

    Good day

    Jacques 

    Are you just interested in batten ends for the moment? Can you make your own designs to print? If not, just let me know the size of your batten tubes, and then I can do it.

    There is a rounded end to the hole going forward, so that when the sheet span is put through the other hole and tied with a figure 8 stopper knot, it never leads around a sharp edge, whatever point of sail you are on.

    Hi David,

    my first post on JRA so I hope I’m doing it correctly. I’m in the middle of converting a Colvic Springtide 24’ to junk rig and have been admiring your batten ends. Would you be amenable to making some for me. Happy to pay for your time and trouble. 

    Mike


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  • 15 Mar 2026 16:22
    Reply # 13609814 on 13574608
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:

    Jacques,

    As it happens, I am designing a deck ring assembly for another JRA member, to suit a 7 inch tube which is very close in diameter to your 18cm mast. The components are to be 3D printed in suitable plastics for outdoor use. He is planning to join a 200mm tapered tube to this 7 inch tube as indicated in the drawings, but it would be just as good to make a hybrid mast using the 7 inch tube, or just to use an 18cm tapered tube as you are doing.  Would you be interested in joining the project? 

    Hello David, 

    I am interested in joining these project ( File N° 1).

    I printed "30mm+aft+end+plug.stl " - file enclosed- What are the 2 drillings for?

    Good day

    Jacques 

    Are you just interested in batten ends for the moment? Can you make your own designs to print? If not, just let me know the size of your batten tubes, and then I can do it.

    There is a rounded end to the hole going forward, so that when the sheet span is put through the other hole and tied with a figure 8 stopper knot, it never leads around a sharp edge, whatever point of sail you are on.

    Hello David,

    I begin my rig ( and batten ends) : please find enclosed photo . I think it's necessary to secure the end piece( yellow) with a rivet (or bolt)or glue it with epoxy. what do you think? 

    Good day

    Jacques 

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  • 26 Dec 2025 09:55
    Reply # 13576041 on 13574608
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:

    Jacques,

    As it happens, I am designing a deck ring assembly for another JRA member, to suit a 7 inch tube which is very close in diameter to your 18cm mast. The components are to be 3D printed in suitable plastics for outdoor use. He is planning to join a 200mm tapered tube to this 7 inch tube as indicated in the drawings, but it would be just as good to make a hybrid mast using the 7 inch tube, or just to use an 18cm tapered tube as you are doing.  Would you be interested in joining the project? 

    Hello David, 

    I am interested in joining these project ( File N° 1).

    I printed "30mm+aft+end+plug.stl " - file enclosed- What are the 2 drillings for?

    Good day

    Jacques 

    Are you just interested in batten ends for the moment? Can you make your own designs to print? If not, just let me know the size of your batten tubes, and then I can do it.

    There is a rounded end to the hole going forward, so that when the sheet span is put through the other hole and tied with a figure 8 stopper knot, it never leads around a sharp edge, whatever point of sail you are on.

    Hello David,

    David,

    I haven't yet chosen the battens (aluminum, wood, bamboo ? ). Currently, I'm making the bits for the mast step and the mast sole.

    Good day



  • 19 Dec 2025 16:57
    Reply # 13574608 on 13574468
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:

    Jacques,

    As it happens, I am designing a deck ring assembly for another JRA member, to suit a 7 inch tube which is very close in diameter to your 18cm mast. The components are to be 3D printed in suitable plastics for outdoor use. He is planning to join a 200mm tapered tube to this 7 inch tube as indicated in the drawings, but it would be just as good to make a hybrid mast using the 7 inch tube, or just to use an 18cm tapered tube as you are doing.  Would you be interested in joining the project? 

    Hello David, 

    I am interested in joining these project ( File N° 1).

    I printed "30mm+aft+end+plug.stl " - file enclosed- What are the 2 drillings for?

    Good day

    Jacques 

    Are you just interested in batten ends for the moment? Can you make your own designs to print? If not, just let me know the size of your batten tubes, and then I can do it.

    There is a rounded end to the hole going forward, so that when the sheet span is put through the other hole and tied with a figure 8 stopper knot, it never leads around a sharp edge, whatever point of sail you are on.

  • 19 Dec 2025 07:31
    Reply # 13574468 on 13574278
    Anonymous wrote:

    Jacques,

    As it happens, I am designing a deck ring assembly for another JRA member, to suit a 7 inch tube which is very close in diameter to your 18cm mast. The components are to be 3D printed in suitable plastics for outdoor use. He is planning to join a 200mm tapered tube to this 7 inch tube as indicated in the drawings, but it would be just as good to make a hybrid mast using the 7 inch tube, or just to use an 18cm tapered tube as you are doing.  Would you be interested in joining the project? 

    Hello David, 

    I am interesting in joining these project ( File N° 1).

    I printed "30mm+aft+end+plug.stl " - file enclosed- What are the 2 drillings for?

    Good day

    Jacques 

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  • 18 Dec 2025 19:33
    Reply # 13574278 on 13487971

    Jacques,

    As it happens, I am designing a deck ring assembly for another JRA member, to suit a 7 inch tube which is very close in diameter to your 18cm mast. The components are to be 3D printed in suitable plastics for outdoor use. He is planning to join a 200mm tapered tube to this 7 inch tube as indicated in the drawings, but it would be just as good to make a hybrid mast using the 7 inch tube, or just to use an 18cm tapered tube as you are doing.  Would you be interested in joining the project? 

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    Last modified: 18 Dec 2025 19:38 | Anonymous member
  • 18 Dec 2025 18:36
    Reply # 13574243 on 13487971

    If ou do paint, and it gets any bubbles, theses need to be removed promptly, otherwise you get corrosion underneath.

    i understand that you should use a specific primer for aluminium 

  • 16 Dec 2025 21:00
    Reply # 13573579 on 13487971

    Bonsoir Jacques,

    if you don't paint the aluminium mast and battens, it will stain the sail. That's all. It is a decision of aestetics, not function. I did not paint my Ilvy's sail, and it works fine. Maybe with a new sail in the future I would paint it, but it is not a must.

    Cheers

    Paul


  • 16 Dec 2025 18:27
    Reply # 13573512 on 13487971

    Hello Jacques, good to see your progress !

    For the mast wedges, PJR says 0.1D, for your mast it's approximatively 2cm.

    I don't know for the aluminium, I think it's a lot simpler to let the pole bare. Painting it would be nicer, but a lot of work.

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