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Hartley TS16 project "Redwing ll"

  • 07 Feb 2024 08:31
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    Anonymous wrote:

    Looks nice, Gary.

    I would keep a close eye on the windows. Rotten cabin sides on my Pelorus testify that plastic screwed to the outside face of a gently curving ply cabin side, with small thru-bolts at about 12" centres, can fail even when bedded on mastic. It is possible the builder simply did not do a good job, although it did look OK about seven years ago. If there is any sign of water getting into one of them, say in a few years time, you can always rip it off and re-do it I guess. Rain water and humid climate is plywood's worst enemy, but I guess it's just a matter of keeping an eye on things. (Lovely looking sail, I might add).

    I am quite intimate with rotten ply. I have a 24ft yacht in the front yard quite riddled with it. :)
  • 07 Feb 2024 02:05
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    Looks nice, Gary.

    I would keep a close eye on the windows. Rotten cabin sides on my Pelorus testify that plastic screwed to the outside face of a gently curving ply cabin side, with small thru-bolts at about 12" centres, can fail even when bedded on mastic. It is possible the builder simply did not do a good job, although it did look OK about seven years ago. If there is any sign of water getting into one of them, say in a few years time, you can always rip it off and re-do it I guess. Rain water and humid climate is plywood's worst enemy, but I guess it's just a matter of keeping an eye on things. (Lovely looking sail, I might add).
  • 07 Feb 2024 01:24
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    The heat and humidity over the last few of months has slowed work down somewhat. However yesterday I was able to fit 4 of the 6 windows in place. I've used butyl mastic tape FixTech200. I've had to put a temporary screw in each end to hold them into the curve till the sealant cures. I'm thinking for added insurance of replacing the screws with permanent bolts at each end.


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  • 09 Nov 2023 04:20
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    Just a little update. I've now reached the point where I am putting paint,  as opposed to stripping it off. I'm getting close to flipping the boat to tackle the hull.

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  • 28 Jul 2023 22:27
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    Arne Kverneland, finally looked at your article on the sail for Edmond Dantes, nicely done.

    I do plan to make a small JR sail for a Phil Bolger Cartopper at some stage, and will be using your method.
  • 22 Jul 2023 00:54
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    Gary,
    I have been shown close-ups of some sails that Paul has made, and they look just fantastic. However, I don’t want this to scare anyone away from trying their hands as amateur sail makers. With a domestic sewing machine without a so-called walking foot, it is not easy to keep an even stitch length, and with the amateur’s lack of practice, the seams may wander a little off the perfect line. Even so, these amateur stitchings will be about just as strong as those made by pros, so please, go ahead.

    Attached is the write-up showing how we made a new (48sqm) sail for my friend, Håvard’s Edmond Dantes, back in 2012. At that time, I had only three junk sails behind me, the last one in 2009, and Håvard had never used a sewing machine. The seams are anything but perfect, but the sail still turned out to work fine.

    Good luck with you second Redwing!

    Arne

    Part 1, sewing...
    http://goo.gl/rH5cTz

    Part 2, rigging and sailing...
    https://bit.ly/3rvKyyi


    Arne i have nothing against amateur built sails, and as you know i built Redwings sail using your method. Paul offered me a good deal that was too good to pass up. And I am interested in trying out his method of adding camber. 

    PS Thanks regarding Redwing ll. :)

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  • 21 Jul 2023 09:25
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    Gary,
    I have been shown close-ups of some sails that Paul has made, and they look just fantastic. However, I don’t want this to scare anyone away from trying their hands as amateur sail makers. With a domestic sewing machine without a so-called walking foot, it is not easy to keep an even stitch length, and with the amateur’s lack of practice, the seams may wander a little off the perfect line. Even so, these amateur stitchings will be about just as strong as those made by pros, so please, go ahead.

    Attached is the write-up showing how we made a new (48sqm) sail for my friend, Håvard’s Edmond Dantes, back in 2012. At that time, I had only three junk sails behind me, the last one in 2009, and Håvard had never used a sewing machine. The seams are anything but perfect, but the sail still turned out to work fine.

    Good luck with you second Redwing!

    Arne

    Part 1, sewing...
    http://goo.gl/rH5cTz

    Part 2, rigging and sailing...
    https://bit.ly/3rvKyyi


    Last modified: 21 Jul 2023 15:42 | Anonymous member (Administrator)
  • 21 Jul 2023 00:22
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    My new sail, courtesy of Paul Thompson arrived a few days ago and yesterday I  laid it out for a look at it. Paul's level of workmanship clearly highlights just how much of an amateur sewer I am.  :)

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  • 07 Jul 2023 10:26
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    Tidied up a bit and got the first photo of the whole boat as it is now.


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  • 22 Jun 2023 11:04
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    My sail, courtesy of Paul Thompson is coming along beautifully.

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