pvc battens

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  • 16 Oct 2019 08:22
    Reply # 7986602 on 7986522
    Deleted user

    While I have never tried this personally, I gather that PVC pipe filled to expanding foam is substantially stiffer than when it is empty. Master of an old square rigger told me he had done this will 100mm PVC pipe to replace a yard that broke at sea. Might just be an old sailors tale of course. Might be worth a small experiment. 

    I think this is mostly an 'old sailors tale'. The foam will just bend with the battens when we are talking about smaller diameter battens as required for most junk sails, and expanding foam in sufficient quantity to fill a tube is actually quite heavy, and probably quite expensive when a sail full of battens is required. 

    There has been a lot of discussion of battens in these forums. Aluminium T6 tube provides stiff battens for smaller diameter, T5 tube can provide stiff battens for larger diameter with thinner wall thickness and potentially lighter weight, and lower cost. Bendy timber such as cedar with a layer of unidirectional fiberglass each side can also produce reasonably stiff battens at light weight and lower cost. Carbon fiber tube can also be good for those who have access to a gold mine, or other similar funding sources! 

    Last modified: 16 Oct 2019 08:33 | Deleted user
  • 16 Oct 2019 06:33
    Reply # 7986522 on 7985985
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:

    Has anyone used pvc tube for battens? What was your experience.

    I had them originally on my junk rig yacht. They were hopelessly bendy. You need something a lot stiffer such as suitably sized aluminium or timber battens.
    While I have never tried this personally, I gather that PVC pipe filled to expanding foam is substantially stiffer than when it is empty. Master of an old square rigger told me he had done this will 100mm PVC pipe to replace a yard that broke at sea. Might just be an old sailors tale of course. Might be worth a small experiment. 
  • 16 Oct 2019 00:25
    Reply # 7986089 on 7985090
    Anonymous wrote:

    Has anyone used pvc tube for battens? What was your experience.


    PVC tube is not suitable for battens as in diameters & wall thicknesses stiff enough to do the job, it's much too heavy.
  • 15 Oct 2019 23:18
    Reply # 7985985 on 7985090
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    Anonymous wrote:

    Has anyone used pvc tube for battens? What was your experience.

    I had them originally on my junk rig yacht. They were hopelessly bendy. You need something a lot stiffer such as suitably sized aluminium or timber battens.
  • 15 Oct 2019 21:44
    Reply # 7985859 on 7985090

    Bonsoir

    Mingming in the original sail had PVC tube battens.

    The sail is a tippical  old fashion flat sail.

    The issue is that, to avoid S-bending the forward part of the battens must be very stiff.

    In the case of Mingming, inside the PVC battens tubes (about 30mm in diameter) there where a mix of hard wood, soft matérial (plastic) and soft wood to provide a minimal camber in "normal wind" at the right place.

    Eric

    Last modified: 15 Oct 2019 21:46 | Anonymous member
  • 15 Oct 2019 14:32
    Message # 7985090
    Deleted user

    Has anyone used pvc tube for battens? What was your experience.

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