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Small Junk Rig for exploring Lakes in Tajikistan

  • 15 Nov 2018 08:30
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    Reply # 6905474 on 6457838
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    Good day folks,

    I just wanted to give you a quick update.

    The plans arrived safe and sound and provided me with a few weeks of pleasant co-curricular diversion.The design is fantastic and can be made for about 500USD but ultimately unsuitable for a place like Tajikistan. I really hope I get the opportunity to build one of these one day.

    Instead I am turning my energies toward planning the conversion of my yacht at home (more correctly my home at the yacht mole) and refitting her for cruising within the next four years.

    Nic
  • 12 Aug 2018 15:00
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    Triloboat looks interesting, hope you'll share some pictures of the build.

    Bill
  • 12 Aug 2018 05:30
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    Good day, 

    Thank you for all the suggestions. 

    To answer your "how cheap is cheap" question Bill, I would say 1000usd is plenty expensive for something that will be discarded after 2 years.

     Thank you for the information on the JRA dingy Annie I enjoyed looking through Mr Welsford's website. 

    All said I think David has hit the nail on the head with the triloboat designs. Which leaves only two questions: how cheap can they be built and am I going to be willing to be seen in one of them? 

    but the 3 day build time and the possible super low cost might just be the trick for the sort of thing I want to do.
  • 11 Aug 2018 00:00
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    I reckon that one of the best designers on the planet for camping/cruising boats is John Welsford .  And as most of his boats are lug rigged, they are easy to convert to junk.

    He is, incidentally, the man designing the JRA dinghy.  John never sells a design until he has built a prototype to see how well it fulfills the design brief and the JRA dinghy is presently at that stage.
  • 10 Aug 2018 22:18
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    The Triloboat 16 ticks all the boxes, I think.
  • 10 Aug 2018 19:36
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    I suggest something like the 17'6" Garvie as being something that could be built in a country where only exterior grade cheap plywood and softwood is available. Build ply-on-frame with Gorilla glue, and paint with ordinary household exterior paint. 

    I'm imagining high altitude lakes, with squalls coming off the mountains and no soft beaches. So part-decked is good, to keep the water out and provide stowage, the scow shape gives maximum initial stability and load carrying, and a good strong bottom for those rocky landings.

    Of course, I could be wrong, I've never been there - had to look at Wikipedia to find out where it was :-)

    Last modified: 10 Aug 2018 20:31 | Anonymous member
  • 10 Aug 2018 17:13
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    How cheap is cheap?


    The goat island skiff might work for you, done right it costs about $3000-$5000US, but if you just wanted a quick and dirty boat to use for a couple years you could probably get it down to about $1000 plus sails, the plans call for a 110 sq ft balanced lug, but there's no reason you couldn't put a junk rig on it.

    It's 15 1/2 feet long, 5 foot beam, well under 200 pounds all up, fast, and can carry 4 people, plans include yawl version.

    https://www.storerboatplans.com/boatplans/goat-island-skiff-simple-sailing-boat-excellent-performance-lightweight/

    They've got a page on facebook, quite busy there too.

    most places it's quicker and cheaper to find something second hand and fix it up.

    Bill.

    Last modified: 10 Aug 2018 17:16 | Deleted user
  • 10 Aug 2018 12:53
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    Good day,

    As I face another two years landlocked away from my boat working in Tajikistan I am thinking about maybe practising some related skills and going on an adventure whilst I am at it. 

    What if I built a cheap junk rigged sailing vessel and explored some of Tajikistan's 2000 huge high altitude lakes?

    I was going to spend the two years cycle touring all over but the terrorist attack targeting cyclists days before we flew to Tajikistan made us decide to rather leave our bicycles at home. 

    I will be doing research over the next while trying to find something that suits my budget and my skill level but any input would be much appreciated.

    Criteria:

    -Cheap to build

    -Easy to build

    -Reasonable pay load (ideally 4 people plus supplies for a few days unsupported exploration but I would settle for 2 people) 


    I remember reading about a possible JRA tender being designed, I will try find out what happened to that idea.

    Cheers,
       " ...there is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as simply messing about in junk-rigged boats" 
                                                               - the Chinese Water Rat

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