Cloth for junk sails

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  • 05 May 2011 06:26
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    David Tyler wrote: Hi Gary,
    Nice pics of Ashiki in build. She's looking good.
    Bearing in mind that she's a foot narrower then Badger, and that the rig will need to be low in weight and low in height, then Odyssey III is the best cloth to choose. You'll need to order about 40% more than the sail area - it's surprising how much all the pockets and patches take. Since Odyssey is quite light, I'd add doubler strips of about 200mm wide down luff and leech, and multiple patches at the head, and this would mean that 50% extra would be nearer the mark. Anything left over, you can use for sail covers,  rain catcher, awning, mast boots, pramhood...
    Thanks for the replies David, Paul,
    As to sail plan, I've drawn heaps over the past 4 years. Benford specs 500sqft for the 30' dories and shows Hasler/McCleod (high aspect) sails in his drawings. Since I stretched the hull 10%, I can add 10% ballast and 10% to sail area. I know the badgers are tender boats so low profile is fine by me, which is why I initially preferred a Van Loan shape. 

    However, I found your fansail article (David) in newsletter #42, and am interested in making a pair like that, they might fit. 3% stagger of battens, is per batten? That would be 70 or 80cm total stagger on the foresail. I'm wondering how much distance I need between fore and mainsail. I have a drawing of the boat using your sqrt(sail area) diagram in my profile (in drawings) and maybe you can comment.
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  • 04 May 2011 22:56
    Reply # 584328 on 584087
    Gary King wrote: I'm looking to order sail cloth for Ashiki in the not too distant future. It is a Badger schooner, sail area around 550 to 600 sqfeet total. So I'm wondering what the consensus is on the best UV resistant cloth. Of course we have to settle on which sail plan to go with, but thats another story.
    So far Oddysey III is looking good.
    Is it a good choice or am I completely deluded?
    Hi Gary,
    Nice pics of Ashiki in build. She's looking good.
    Bearing in mind that she's a foot narrower then Badger, and that the rig will need to be low in weight and low in height, then Odyssey III is the best cloth to choose. You'll need to order about 40% more than the sail area - it's surprising how much all the pockets and patches take. Since Odyssey is quite light, I'd add doubler strips of about 200mm wide down luff and leech, and multiple patches at the head, and this would mean that 50% extra would be nearer the mark. Anything left over, you can use for sail covers,  rain catcher, awning, mast boots, pramhood...
  • 04 May 2011 20:40
    Reply # 584233 on 584087
    Gary King wrote: I'm looking to order sail cloth for Ashiki in the not too distant future. It is a Badger schooner, sail area around 550 to 600 sqfeet total. So I'm wondering what the consensus is on the best UV resistant cloth. Of course we have to settle on which sail plan to go with, but thats another story.
    So far Oddysey III is looking good.
    Is it a good choice or am I completely deluded?

    Gary Odyssey III is the way to go. Reasonable price, good UV resistance and pleasant to work with. Has enough give so you can use Arne's method to create camber but is also stretch resistant enough so that you can use the shelf foot method.

    Do make sure that you align the weave parrel to the leach and use plenty of tension in the foot to help control pucker.
  • 04 May 2011 16:49
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    I'm looking to order sail cloth for Ashiki in the not too distant future. It is a Badger schooner, sail area around 550 to 600 sqfeet total. So I'm wondering what the consensus is on the best UV resistant cloth. Of course we have to settle on which sail plan to go with, but thats another story.
    So far Oddysey III is looking good.
    Is it a good choice or am I completely deluded?
    Last modified: 04 May 2011 16:49 | Deleted user
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