Backing Battens on the mast side - mehitabel

  • 17 Jul 2011 02:42
    Reply # 656606 on 656012
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    David Tyler wrote:
    Kurt Jon Ulmer wrote:This is not amazing.
    Battens on the other side...
    work just fine.
    KJU

    There you are, goes to show that you can do 'most anything with a junk rig.
    No-Rules Rules, OK.

    Kurt, glad to hear positive results!  David, excellent reply!  I am looking forward to experimenting!!
  • 16 Jul 2011 02:04
    Reply # 656012 on 655378
    Kurt Jon Ulmer wrote:This is not amazing.
    Battens on the other side...
    work just fine.
    KJU

    There you are, goes to show that you can do 'most anything with a junk rig.
    No-Rules Rules, OK.
  • 15 Jul 2011 06:31
    Reply # 655378 on 519529
    This is not amazing.
    Battens on the other side...
    work just fine.
    KJU

  • 13 Feb 2011 21:26
    Reply # 521554 on 519529
    Thanks, Slieve.
    The 'good reasons' I cited are winning out in my mind, so I'll try being backwards. Foresail first if I'm feeling conservative on the day.
    Cheers
  • 11 Feb 2011 10:03
    Reply # 520228 on 519529

    Off the top of my head I can't see why not, however I just get the feeling that my money is on putting the batten on the mast side. I don't know why, and will be interested to hear how your experience works out.

    Cheers

    Slieve

    Last modified: 11 Feb 2011 10:03 | Anonymous member
  • 11 Feb 2011 00:48
    Reply # 520093 on 519529
    Well, if you guys can't see any damning flaws, I may have to go ahead and find them myself.
    Thanks,
    Kurt
  • 10 Feb 2011 21:27
    Reply # 519958 on 519529
    Kurt,

    I also cannot think of any reason why you should not do as you propose. Strikes me though the if what goes against the mast is the 19mm conduit, then you possibly do not need any fendering at all  (unless it is to try and reduce noise but that does not enter my world). One possible problem could be the tube collapsing but you could avoid that by inserting a piece of dowel or some such thing into the conduit to make it solid in the bearing area.
  • 10 Feb 2011 09:27
    Reply # 519536 on 519529
    I've been around junk rigs since dinosaurs roamed the planet, and I can't remember anyone switching battens and backing battens around. Then along comes a thinking man, and wonders why not. I don't think we know whether it works or not, Kurt, until you tell us. Does anyone think differently?
  • 10 Feb 2011 09:00
    Message # 519529
    About ready to reassemble our flat-sailed junk rig, it occurs to me that I might do well to put the backing battens (plastic conduit ~19mm OD) on the mast side of the sail with the fendering (probably polythene water pipe ~ 37mm ID) lashed eccentrically to it through holes. (Smooth, with no lashings against the mast.) 

    I'd put the round aluminium battens on the off-mast side. This is opposite to the way they were, and to the other sails I can remember that have backing battens. I won't have batten pockets.

    Good reasons:
    - Only plastic against the mast.
    - Space for air or sound-deadening foam or something in the eccentric space between the fat fender-pipe and skinny little backing batten, for softer, quieter knocks.
    - Batten can't be dented by mast.
    - Batten easier to inspect and to remove, straighten, replace with no fendering to work around.
    - Fender easier to replace without batten to work around.
    - Same fendering on foresail and main. (Main's Al battens are larger diameter; backing battens are the same on both sails.)

    Bad reasons:
    Somebody knows. Please let me know, before I realise them a short time from now and have to report my failure to the JRA... and then be rightly told it was tried in 1982, and 'Don't you read your old JRA newsletters before you fall asleep?'...

    The other change I'm making here is to stop using leather for fendering, as it was pretty abrasive, for all its lovely shippy creaking sounds.

    Cheers,
    Kurt

    Forgot to say... The batten parrels will be located with light lines through grommets, so no problem there. This issue is discussed in the recent 'Aluminium Battens' topic. My solution is no improvement, just different and hard to describe..

    Last modified: 10 Feb 2011 09:00 | Anonymous member
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