Galion 22 conversion

  • 17 Jan 2018 09:14
    Reply # 5687262 on 5070195

    The sewing will start soon, but one question seems to keep me on my toes: how wide should one make the vertical seams of the panels in order to ensure the strength?

    20mm overlap? 40? 50? More?

    I'm using 190g/sqm polyester (Swela Outguard).

    The cloth width is 170cm and the panel width is about 400cm, so I'll have two seams - or possibly three, if I end up using broadseaming (which seems probable). The third seam would be placed at about the 35% spot, i.e. max round.

    Last modified: 17 Jan 2018 09:15 | Anonymous member
  • 11 Jan 2018 16:58
    Reply # 5676500 on 5070195

    Thank you once again, Arne!

  • 11 Jan 2018 14:08
    Reply # 5676241 on 5070195
    Anonymous member (Administrator)
    Jami,

    The  lower battens of the 35sqm sail on my IF are 35 x 2mm, and they cope well. Your sail is so much smaller and the boat so much lighter, so I think 35 x 1.5mm should be OK.  For batten 2 from top, I guess I would prefer the 35 x 2mm version, and maybe even for the boom.

    Arne


    Last modified: 11 Jan 2018 20:41 | Anonymous member (Administrator)
  • 11 Jan 2018 12:58
    Reply # 5676206 on 5653642
    Jami Jokinen wrote:

    The mast issue is still pending, but I would need advice on the batten sizes. They will be aluminium tubes, but would 35/2 or even 35/1.5mm be enough or not? 


    Any views, please?
  • 30 Dec 2017 21:27
    Reply # 5653642 on 5070195

    Alll right, folks - I have started crafting the sail by cutting panel patterns from thick paper.

    I'll go for Arne's sail type with AR=2.15 and sail area of about 27 sqm. The cloth will be Swela Outguard (190 g/sqm) in bright yellow :)

    The mast issue is still pending, but I would need advice on the batten sizes. They will be aluminium tubes, but would 35/2 or even 35/1.5mm be enough or not? 


    Last modified: 02 Jan 2018 15:06 | Anonymous member
  • 25 Nov 2017 10:17
    Reply # 5600608 on 5070195
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    It may still be needed to fill the step with something to make the transition smoother and ensure that the batten parrels etc. don't catch the step, but that isn't difficult to make. I use epoxy with some light filler in it, and then glass over it, no problem.

    Arne


  • 25 Nov 2017 09:25
    Reply # 5600603 on 5070195

    Correct, the stepped poles from Nedal and others are flow-formed, like the conical poles. I guess it must be easier for them to run the machine along at the same diameter than to be making the diameter decrease as it runs along. When I mentioned separate tubes and a conical adaptor, I was thinking of the masts I've seen made this way, when full length tubes haven't been available.

    If you want to see how it's done:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAnzRRjKPpc

  • 24 Nov 2017 23:12
    Reply # 5600359 on 5070195
    No separate poles - if you look ar the photo at the link below, you will see that the stepped ligting pole is manufactured as such.
    Last modified: 24 Nov 2017 23:13 | Anonymous member
  • 24 Nov 2017 22:38
    Reply # 5600349 on 5600031
    Jami Jokinen wrote:Is it possible to use a lighting pole that is not tapered, but "stepped" (I have no idea of the right term in englis) like this?

    They seem to be available in 4 and 5 mm wall thicknesses in various lengths, although sold only in 6060.

    I see no reason why you shouldn't simply fair from one step to the other, with epoxy filler, or similar.  If the poles fit all your other specifications, the steps wouldn't really be an issue.
  • 24 Nov 2017 15:30
    Reply # 5600111 on 5070195

    It would be possible, though not ideal, to use a stepped pole. There are masts around that have been assembled from two tubes with quite a difference in diameters, and with a conical adaptor to allow the sail to slide over the join.

    Nedal is a big enterprise, and the extruder in the Netherlands, and supplies customers across the whole of Scandinavia and Europe. I would be very surprised if there were another one in such a small country

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