Where do you put your steaming light?

  • 16 Aug 2016 20:23
    Reply # 4195711 on 3077788
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    David Webb wrote:

    Hi, on Arcadian I mounted the steaming light on the fore mast above the highest point that the yard comes to but about two feet below the cap. It is a combined steaming and deck light and lights up the fore  deck when needed. The stern light is a separate unit and is mounted on the cross member above the davits and is about eight feet above the water which gives good visibility for following craft. This has worked well and, in combination with the separate port and starboard lights on the bow pulpit, meets all of the requirements for steaming lights. I also have a tricolour/anchor light on the top of the main mast.

    Reading through this fairly comprehensive thread has me wondering if my plan for reworking my nav lights is correct. I already have port and starboard running lights on the pilothouse as well as a stern light that I will mount on an arch above the wind vane.  My plan was to add a masthead steaming light to the top of the foremast and a combined tricolor-anchor light to the mainmast.  Under power I would use the the steaming light atop the foremast with the deck-level running and stern lights.  What has me wondering is that David Webb was the only one who posted a similar solution and he put the masthead light partway down the mast.  There are a lot of two-masted Junk rigged boats, so I was wondering why I hadn't seen this solution in my searches of the JRA.  Have I missed something?  By my reading, I think this should comply with ColReg rule 23.



  • 28 Aug 2014 00:55
    Reply # 3087874 on 3077601
    Your North Sea ferry skipper bears out what I've often thought, Brian.  To me, a masthead light is ideal offshore, where the officer on watch is not anticipating seeing a yacht at all.  With luck, when he sees this strange light bobbing about, he'll either get out binoculars or tweak his radar settings to try and locate you.

    In confined waters, I too, have found it difficult to work out where the boat is at the bottom of the mast.  I suspect lights lower down are easier for most watchkeepers to identify.  I confess to leaving a cabin light on for that very reason, because I only have an all-round white light.  When I get some spare cash, I will consider buying the Navisafe lights for entering harbour, etc.

  • 27 Aug 2014 22:20
    Reply # 3087775 on 3077601
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    My nav lights while powering are similar to Ron Glas in that I use a demountable pole on the bow for the masthead light. While sailing there is a bicolor on the fwd rail and 135 deg sternlight. For motoring the 225 deg bow white is added and is about 1.5 meter higher than the bicolor and few feet aft. From headon to 225 deg port or stbd I look like a small powerboat.
  • 27 Aug 2014 18:39
    Reply # 3087604 on 3077601
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    Extract from a letter in PBO November 2002 from a big ship Captain G Kullack who then ran navigation courses for yachties on [ferry bridges]:

    "I've been the master of a north sea ferry for more than 40 years, mainly on a route between Germany and England... Part of the program is a ... session ... about problems between yachts and merchant shipping.... One of my most important points has always been to show ... the danger of masthead navigation lights... Boat owners think that... [such]... are more visible, because the difference in the range with the light at 10m compared to 1m with the height of eye at 14m (ship) is 14 nm instead of 10 nm. With the height of eyes at 6m (coaster) it's 11 nm instead of 7 nm, while the range of the light needs to be only 5 or 3 nm (respectively).

    "On the other hand a masthead light, which is say the same height as the officer on watch on watch of of a merchant vessel will stay on the horizon independent of the distance, suggesting that it's actually further away. The low brightness only makes the situation worse.

    "[Also] The light does not even necessarily change its bearing when it gets closer... Owners should never forget that a masthead light might not be picked up between all the lights along a coastline.

    "Therefore my recommendation has always been put your lights at rail height, even if it means one more .... lamp (instead of three)."


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  • 22 Aug 2014 10:05
    Reply # 3083662 on 3077601
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    OOn RON GLAS we use a standard set of nav lights mounted on the coach roof sides with the stern light a metre above the transom on the windmill pole. we moved it here after people sailing behind noted that the windvane blade [large Hasler unit]would obscure the light on certain points  as.,for the steaming light we have a demountable pole on the foredeck with a white light that sits above the port/stb nav lights ----  not ideal but it works. tony&sally s/v RON GLAS

  • 20 Aug 2014 14:59
    Reply # 3079278 on 3077601

    Hi,

    It is very simple, you make a mounting bracket, thin marine plywood. You Mount a bungeecord on one side, and a hook or whatever on the other. Adjust the length of the cord so it sits snugly on the mast. Then you take a running light lantern to you boats specification and Mount it on the bracket. Have an Electric wire to a deck contact. Youmay or may not have it on a seperate switch, and that is all there is to it. Let there be light! It is more difficult if you want to motorsail as the sail will get in the way of the lantern. You would need a "mast"(broom stick) in front of the sail to get it right. 

    Last modified: 20 Aug 2014 15:03 | Anonymous member
  • 20 Aug 2014 11:01
    Reply # 3079203 on 3078759
    Ketil Greve wrote:

    Marie G sports a steaming lantern mounted With bungee cord 1,5 meter up the mast when motoring. A deck contact is all needed, Connected to the normal navigation lights. When sailing, not needed, when motoring, sail is Down anyway.  


    This seems very sensible. Do you have a photograph of your light and mounting? I'm guessing you could put up the light when motorsailing between the parrels, with the possibility that it might drop or get knocked off if you do an emergency reef.
  • 19 Aug 2014 21:26
    Reply # 3078948 on 3077601
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    The "Lights" switch on my switch panel powers a "ON-OFF-ON" switch labeled "sail" and "motor". That way a flick of said switch turns off my stern light while turning on the 360° mast head light.

  • 19 Aug 2014 19:16
    Reply # 3078861 on 3077601

    Thanks for all the ideas, this is obviously an area that has caused much thought all round!

    It sounds like my configuration is legal but as I feared may still cause problems. 

    My boat has  a stern light fitted but it doesn't seem to be wired up. I think that I'll connect it up via a separate switch to give another option. 


  • 19 Aug 2014 16:27
    Reply # 3078759 on 3077601

    Marie G sports a steaming lantern mounted With bungee cord 1,5 meter up the mast when motoring. A deck contact is all needed, Connected to the normal navigation lights. When sailing, not needed, when motoring, sail is Down anyway.  

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