CLR calculations on twin keel sailboats

  • 13 Jul 2014 17:21
    Reply # 3044497 on 3041673
    Deleted user

    Life long habit......military background.....Marines. I still call the twenty year old check out girl at the grocery store "mam". I meant no disrespect......

  • 10 Jul 2014 10:02
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    Anonymous member (Administrator)
    Ben wrote:

    Thank you sir, for your reply. I have been studying your many articles, thank you for posting so much information for us all. I was simply curious if a twin keel design changed things any. Thanks again!


    No need to sir me mate!

    I am proud to let you know that in Norway we have dozens of words describing all sorts of (mostly foul) weather, and scores of words describing different sorts of boats  -  but we have no operational word for ‘sir’.  Somehow, we still cope...

     

    Arne

     

  • 09 Jul 2014 20:32
    Reply # 3042050 on 3041673
    Deleted user

    Thank you sir, for your reply. I have been studying your many articles, thank you for posting so much information for us all. I was simply curious if a twin keel design changed things any. Thanks again!

  • 09 Jul 2014 20:07
    Reply # 3042029 on 3041673
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    I guess you ask about this  because you want to design a JR and want to find a useful position for the sail’s CE. In cases where I know the CE of the existing rig, I rather use that as a reference and then correct it , using these home-made “rules” (assuming that I make the junk sail with cambered panels and with the max camber point about 35% of the chord from the luff):

    • If the boat balances nicely  with the Bm rig (sloop), I position the JR’s CE 3 – 5%  of the WL further aft.
    • If the boat have more weather helm than I like (Bm sloop), then I put the CE of the JR on the same position as for the original rig.
    • If the boat has lee helm with the Bm sloop rig, I move the new CE of the JR up to 10% aft of the original place.

    Those who made that twin-keeler already have done the brainwork (or cutting and trying) for us, so we save ourselves an unnecessary headache by not trying to do it again..

     

    Cheers,
    Arne

     

    Last modified: 10 Jul 2014 09:45 | Anonymous member (Administrator)
  • 09 Jul 2014 16:54
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    Deleted user

    I am interested if locating the CLR on a twin keel sailboat is exactly the same as a single keel boat. When viewed from the beam the keels are "even" but when on other points of sail it seems possible for the CLR to move forward or aft slightly. Thanks!

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