Mast taper

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  • 16 Apr 2013 04:28
    Reply # 1269630 on 1268428
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     David,
    Fortunately my mast doesn't require a tapered tabernacle. If I were to build a tabernacle for a mast that tapered to the base, I think that I would build it with parallel sides wide enough to take the mast's base and somehow shim the upper section where it pivots. Just a thought though not terribly useful. The first approx. 2 feet of my mast that are held in the tabernacle will remain square and won't have any taper.  The tabernacle is pretty simple just two uprights  1/4 " narrower (fore and aft wise) than the mast with a bolt through the mast (reinforced with two 1/16 " pieces of stainless.) and a clamp at the base.  It's a Phil Bolger design.  

    Above the tabernacle the the mast will taper also in 8 stations. From the bottom  .99, .96, .92, .87, .80, .72, .56, .42 of the base with the staves getting reduced along with the cross section.  I successfully built one to these proportions but this time I started with some spruce that was heavier than average and had to make some overall adjustments.
  • 15 Apr 2013 20:15
    Reply # 1269353 on 1268428
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    Sounds about right - at stages along mast of 1/8th of tapered length I have calculated reductions in mast diameter of 1.34%, 6%, 13.4%, 24.8%, 38.9%, 55% 75.8% and 100% of total decrease (in my case, from 150mm to 75mm). So at 37.5% of length diameter has reduced by 13.4% of total reduction, or 6.8% of max mast diameter.



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  • 15 Apr 2013 17:00
    Reply # 1269164 on 1268428
    Hi Philip,
    Does the barreled taper of your mast continue below the top of the tabernacle, reducing the width? I'm thinking of the way that Pete Hill made the tabernacle for Shirley Carter's Speedwell, and wondering how difficult it is to make a tapered tabernacle that fits to a fully barreled shape. Just curiosity and academic interest.
  • 15 Apr 2013 15:36
    Reply # 1269091 on 1268428
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    When I look at the design of the mast I'm building I see that a barreled taper allows me to start off with a slightly smaller diameter as the mast tapers more gradually in the lower part where greater strength and stiffness is helpful. It will taper only 8% in the first 38% of its LAP . I'll have a wood tabernacle with sides that are wide to begin with so any less mast width is good. The main reason for this particular design is that its square, easier to build for an amateur and I scaled down from the plans for a larger mast I built years ago. Right now it's glued up and the epoxy will be fully cured with the dust inert in another week or so and I'll begin shaping the 17foot box.

  • 14 Apr 2013 22:53
    Reply # 1268623 on 1268541
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    Chris Gallienne wrote:Brian

    I try whenever possible to resist temptations of this sort. Fortunately the Lord in his wisdom has chosen to surround Arne with objects of such temptation, while you and I would struggle to find one.

    Chris
    I dunno about that. A friend of mine in Falmouth who was some years ago fitting out a Roberts 25 with a junk rig found a straight tree in a Devon National Trust forest and somehow persuaded them to let him chop it down. Seems there's always a way!
  • 14 Apr 2013 21:35
    Reply # 1268568 on 1268428
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    Actually I too will go for a hybrid aluminium-wood mast this time. I have ordered a 6.0m tube, 100 x 4mm made of 6082-T6 (250MPa) alloy and with a 1.60m top section of spruce (plus 0.40m stuck into the tube). The result should look something like this (don't ask when).

    This mast was too small to bother with chopping down a tree first.

    Arne

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  • 14 Apr 2013 20:46
    Reply # 1268541 on 1268428
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    Brian

    I try whenever possible to resist temptations of this sort. Fortunately the Lord in his wisdom has chosen to surround Arne with objects of such temptation, while you and I would struggle to find one.

    Chris
  • 14 Apr 2013 20:34
    Reply # 1268526 on 1268428
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    Chris, if you're ever tempted to make a mast from a tree, Arne has a paper about this here.
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  • 14 Apr 2013 20:32
    Reply # 1268525 on 1268428
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    David.

    Good answer. This question struck me when looking at plans for staved masts, where a section is designed to be cylindrical (around the partners, typically). This means that the transition from cylindrical to conical taper is (theoretically) instantaneous, but of course the wood will not permit this transition. It strikes me that this may be an area of high stress, and perhaps one where the glue is filling in for wood. A barrel taper allows this transition to be smooth and continuous, and it seems to me it would be more stress-free.

    Chris
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  • 14 Apr 2013 20:12
    Reply # 1268520 on 1268428
    Interesting question, Chris. I think that practicality rules, in most cases. It's easier to plane a conical taper, and check with a straight edge, on a grown or solid built mast. A six- or eight-staved mast will be easier to form if the staves are barrel shaped. A one-piece spun-tapered alloy mast is usually cylinder plus cone shaped, as is a two piece alloy mast, or a composite alloy tube/wooden topmast. A fibre/resin mast laid up on a removable mandrel will naturally have to be conical. 

    Which is best? My hunch is that a barrel-form, with easy curves, puts the right amount of material in the right places to give agreeable bend characteristics, neither bodily swaying from a point near the deck, nor flicking at the top like a fishing rod. A cone plus cylinder plus cone shape would be very close to this, and for an alloy mast, a cylinder plus cone is very acceptable.
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