Hartley TS16 project "Redwing ll"

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  • 13 Feb 2021 09:02
    Reply # 10091209 on 10087530

    I liked working with Weathermax and I like the end result.  They make a Weathermax LT, which might be worth investigating.  If you decide to cover the sail against UV, why not just use a nice, soft cotton?

  • 13 Feb 2021 07:07
    Reply # 10091063 on 10090350
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:

    Okay, good start. So I need to find a suitable 4 oz cloth. Paul, I shall be in touch. :)

    Like I said on the FB forum, look at spinnaker cloth or the Dacron used for Code Zero sails. Spinnaker rip-stop nylon is likely cheaper than the Code Zero stuff. If you build the sail right, it will be amply strong enough for the job.
    Looking for a source at the moment. 
  • 13 Feb 2021 01:10
    Reply # 10090350 on 10090328
    Anonymous wrote:

    Okay, good start. So I need to find a suitable 4 oz cloth. Paul, I shall be in touch. :)

    Like I said on the FB forum, look at spinnaker cloth or the Dacron used for Code Zero sails. Spinnaker rip-stop nylon is likely cheaper than the Code Zero stuff. If you build the sail right, it will be amply strong enough for the job.
  • 13 Feb 2021 00:57
    Reply # 10090328 on 10087530

    Okay, good start. So I need to find a suitable 4 oz cloth. Paul, I shall be in touch. :)

  • 12 Feb 2021 23:05
    Reply # 10089999 on 10087530

    Blue Moon's 23 sq m sail is built from Weathermax 80.  I think the material is probably a bit heavy for such a small cambered junk sail.  It does inflate, even in light airs, but not fully until the wind gets over 12 knots.  Even then the material along the battens lies in lazy folds, though most of the panel takes up an excellent shape and that is good enough for me.  I love the feel of the material, heavy and soft.

    I might add that I chose the material against Paul Thompson's advice to use something lighter, and am delighted with the sail. Paul's workmanship is the best I have ever seen.  I think 5-6 oz material would have been better for my sail, though I refuse to go to bed with Odyssey!  4 oz material would be the heaviest I'd consider for a Hartley 16, since 10-15 knot winds, 15-20 knots max, and inshore waters would be my sailing window.  Looking forward to crossing tacks with Redwing 11 one of these days.

    Last modified: 12 Feb 2021 23:11 | Anonymous member
  • 12 Feb 2021 19:19
    Reply # 10089350 on 10087530

    I agree with that weight, Arne. I'd be looking for a 4 oz ripstop polyester cloth (not PU coated, but DWR is OK) at a local discount fabric supplier, for a coastal 16ft boat. 

  • 12 Feb 2021 14:47
    Reply # 10088369 on 10087530
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Gary,
    even those who cruise a good deal around the coast, will stay most of the time at anchor or in the marina (or on the trailer). With a half-decent sail cover, the Odyssey should last for a good while. However, I think that is on the heavy side for sails in the 20sqm category, or below that. I noticed that the 20sqm sail for my ‘Frøken Sørensen’ could be a bit reluctant to inflate its panels properly in very light winds. The 35sqm sail of my present ‘Ingeborg’, taken from the same roll of Odyssey III, does much better.

    I therefore suggest you look for some lighter cloth for the JR of a TS16, say 150g/sqm or 4oz.
    good luck!

    Arne


    Last modified: 12 Feb 2021 14:51 | Anonymous member (Administrator)
  • 12 Feb 2021 11:33
    Reply # 10087828 on 10087530

    The Arne designed TS16 sail.

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  • 12 Feb 2021 08:49
    Message # 10087530

    If all goes to plan and Murphy doesn't known about, I should have my next boat in April. it will of course be converted to JR with the Arne designed TS16 sail. Which I will of course make myself, but the question is what material to use? The sail area is about 16.8 sqm.

    My Odyssey lll sail has held up very well but it hasn't done any long trips so overall UV exposure is probably quite low.

    I quite like Weathermax.

    Opinions?

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