Ganley for sale in New Zealand

  • 20 Mar 2022 22:41
    Message # 12674020
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Here's a project.

    10.3 m Ganley with carbon fibre mast.

    NZ$6,000 will buy it.

    Interior described as "agricultural"

    On Trademe here.


    Last modified: 20 Mar 2022 22:46 | Anonymous member (Administrator)
  • 20 Mar 2022 23:37
    Reply # 12674069 on 12674020
    Deleted user
    Graeme wrote:

    Here's a project.

    10.3 m Ganley with carbon fibre mast.

    NZ$6,000 will buy it.

    Interior described as "agricultural"

    On Trademe here.


    I think the owner might need to pay someone $6k to take it away! Whoever buys that boat is going to need vision and fortitude to make something of the boat. If the carbon mast was any good it might be a cheap way to get a good junk rig mast, but then the rest of the boat would need to be dealt with. This boat seems typical of so many boats which are languishing away on moorings all around New Zealand, and doubtless many other countries. Tired old boats owned by people who do not have the passion, the time, and the spare money to use and properly look after a boat. This is going to create a disposal crisis in the not too far distant future. At least a steel boat could potentially be recycled, unlike all those fiberglass boats built during the 1960's, 70's, and 80's which are now worn out.
    Last modified: 20 Mar 2022 23:48 | Deleted user
  • 21 Mar 2022 00:56
    Reply # 12674150 on 12674020
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    I understand about the disposal crisis David. A massive number of boats were built in the 70s and many of these now have tired sails, tired engines - and tired owners. Some of them would still make reasonable conversions (to outboard motor and home made junk rig, for example). Even if not worth fixing, not all of them are a dead loss, but fibreglass hulls (like passed-used-by wind generator blades) are going to be problematic.

    A friend of mine recently bought a (rusty) steel boat for next to nothing, got a modern ketch rig, a good 4 cylinder Ford D series, expensive anchor windlass, good Furuno electronics - probably well more than 10,000 worth of gear for his own project (an Athol Burns being beautifully restored). He then paid about $2,000 plus transport costs to have the hulk taken away by a disposal company for recycllng the steel. (And, I presume, the lead). This one was clearly beyond being worth restoring, despite outwardly looking good and being very well-equipped. Not all unwanted boats would yield as well as this, and I doubt this Ganley would, though it comes with a mooring, a carbon fibre mast and a reasonable-looking electric capstan, so it wouldn't be a dead loss.  Edit: I followed this up and discovered that my facts were wrong. The boat was not disposed of to a "disposal company for recycling the steel", it went to a private individual who evidentally now has regrets. It is unknown what it would have costed, or will cost,  to dispose of to a recycler. The rumour is it would have been high, as David Th has suggested.

    However, I have not seen the boat. It looks to me more like an uncompleted project rather than "old and languishing" and if it that is the case, it might be a worthwhile project for someone, to finish. That was my thought. It could be worth a look.

    Last modified: 23 Mar 2022 21:38 | Anonymous member (Administrator)
  • 21 Mar 2022 01:33
    Reply # 12674189 on 12674020

    If someone is interested in a Ganley in the PNW region of the US, I  have a Snowbird 30 with junk rig in good condition, ready to sail away.  The kicker is that at the moment the engine will not start as it is missing one part that the mechanic says he cannot lay hands on due to supply chain problems.  The boat is located in Tacoma, WA. It would have to be towed N about a mile from its moorage in a narrow waterway, after which the glories of the PNW Salish Sea and beyond are accessible by sail.  When I get the engine fixed, hopefully this summer, I will do a proper separate listing for Dragon's Wing with more pictures.  The missing part is a seal that is part of the fuel injection system.  The engine is a 20HP Yanmar with about 1400 hours.  I bought this boat in Nova Scotia, sailed it to Puerto Vallarta, Mexico, and had it trucked to Seattle.  Since then I have sailed as far N as the north end of Vancouver Island, BC, Canada.  I am interested in selling the boat as I  have purchased a Benford 34 junk schooner.  Best offer gets Dragon's Wing - what do you think she is worth?

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  • 23 Mar 2022 22:27
    Reply # 12678416 on 12674020
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    (Paul, we will try to get Dragon's Wing featured on the website home page for April, to coincide with her coming on the market. Dennis Ganley was a popular and promising designer in New Zealand and your junk rigged "Ganley Snowbird" will be of general interest).

    Regarding my anecdote about the steel boat which my friend had purchased in order to salvage its rigging and equipment, and then dispose of for scrap: I followed this up and discovered that my facts were wrong. The boat was not disposed of to a "disposal company for recycling the steel", in fact the hull went to another private individual who accepted $1000 to take it away, and who evidentally now has regrets. It is unknown what it would have costed, or what it will cost,  to dispose of to a recycler. My friend was told it would have been high - as David Th has suggested.

    It would be very interesting now to hear from anyone who has direct experience of disposing of a boat for scrap (or recycling the material). What does it cost? Its quite an important question. Maybe someone could start a new forum thread on the subject.

    Regarding the boat which was the subject of this thread: the mooring has now been sold and the owner will take $1.00 to be rid of the boat. It is 20 years old and has had two owners, the interior was never properly finished. The owner tells me it was was originally junk rigged, with a hexagonal section steel mast which was soon replaced with the current carbon fibre mast. There is a little bit of rust in the cockpit, and near the heel of the mast. The owner, who I don't think ever did much with it, believes the hull is basically sound so it still might be of interest to a steel boat aficionado - but obviously one's eyes would need to be wide open. It was last hauled out and zincs replaced two years ago. The owner says the first owner told him the keel has lead (and a fuel tank) and if it is true to plan, the amount of lead would be 1.8 ton.


    I know little about steel boats and personally have no interest in this vessel.




    Last modified: 24 Mar 2022 07:50 | Anonymous member (Administrator)
  • 24 Mar 2022 05:35
    Reply # 12678861 on 12674020

    I have not been on this boat but I do know this boat and I have seen it sailing .. Any buyer might prefer a modern junk sail but it goes well downwind .  The cabin top would be hard to love but a weeks work by a competent welder would work wonders. The inside fit out is obviously not what most would prefer and is another matter. Fortunately I am not living in Christchurch any more so I will not be tempted. 

    Last modified: 24 Mar 2022 05:36 | Anonymous member
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