A DIY face mask and other ways to fight the Corona virus

  • 29 Mar 2020 21:00
    Reply # 8865670 on 8855224
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Howard,

    Salt

    Adding a pad of felt, supersaturated with salt, would probably make a mask even more effective. The downside is that it would be awfully hard to breath through. My double dishcloth mask produces quite some breathing resistance as well, and I would not want to wear it all day. Therefore, I guess I will leave that mask as it is.

    However, the salt is very effective in attracting moist: To stray away a little from the Corona subject, I have from February on, had a bag of road salt (Magnesium chloride) hanging in the cabin of Ingeborg. This is my ‘unplugged' version of an air dehumidifier. Despite all the rain in Stavanger this winter, the humidity (RH) has gradually dropped from 80 – 90% to below 70. The salt bag is far from as powerful as an electric dehumidifier, but since Ingeborg has no leaks, and with the deck vent closed and the companionway hatch and door covered, the bag seems to be efficient enough.

    Arne



    Last modified: 29 Mar 2020 21:03 | Anonymous member (Administrator)
  • 29 Mar 2020 18:02
    Reply # 8865440 on 8865275
    Deleted user
    Anonymous wrote:

    Howard,
    Just remember that some of the best dust masks has a valve on it, so it only filters the air you breath in. This is good for dust masks, but in case the mask wearer is the one who is infected, then the virus will be spread unhindered through that valve.

    Arne



     Arne:

          You will if you look at the link I posted, see that many do not use a valve.   These are ALL rated N95, which essentially has to do with micron size and nothing else.  The most important part of that link is the statement below.  I suspect that your masks are probably at least as effective as a standard N95 for this purpose, and that if you included the felt piece I suggested that is supersaturated with salt and dried, they would be MORE effective than anything you could readily buy.     To use valves of masks would not make sense unless it was a reverse valve..... allowing you to breath air in unobstructed... if you are already infected and protecting others.  There is NO circumstance where a valve allowing you to breath out unobstructed would make sense here, as being asymptomatic does NOT mean that you are virus free.

                                                               H.W.


    Flu Virus

    Are N95 Masks Really Effective against the flu?

    A little online research will reveal that the flu virus is .17 microns in size. Clearly smaller than even N100 masks can filter out. However, it is critical to understand that the flu virus does not float in the air by itself. The flu virus is transported from patient to patient on droplets of excretions from sneezing and coughing. These particles are typically 5 microns or larger. When a sick patient wears a respirator, the respirator can be very effective at preventing infectious material from leaving the patients body, and when worn by healthy individuals, it prevents inhalation of said material. More importantly, wearing a mask is a excellent way of preventing the user from rubbing or touching their mouth or nose, which is a very high risk factor. At the end of the day will an N95 mask guarantee to protect you from the Flu? No. But it can substantially reduce your risk or receiving or transmitting the disease.

  • 29 Mar 2020 16:29
    Reply # 8865275 on 8855224
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Howard,
    Just remember that some of the best dust masks has a valve on it, so it only filters the air you breath in. This is good for dust masks, but in case the mask wearer is the one who is infected, then the virus will be spread unhindered through that valve.

    Arne


  • 29 Mar 2020 15:48
    Reply # 8865231 on 8855224
    Deleted user

    The N95 mask is not rocket science, actually a pretty crude mask meets that criteria. 

    https://www.envirosafetyproducts.com/resources/dust-masks-whats-the-difference.html

    The fit to your face so that ALL the air passes through, is probably the most critical factor.  I've worn a beard most of my life, and in order to make a  mask have any real protection at all, I would  need to shave I suspect.   


    I live in a remote area, and have very little close proximity contact with others.   With the schools shut down, and many people here no longer going to job due to the  lockdown / shelter in place order, the risk of any of us being exposed is considerably less than in an urban environment. 

          Being at sea on a yacht would be even better.........


                                                           H.W.

  • 29 Mar 2020 14:37
    Reply # 8865190 on 8855224

    Thanks, Graeme, for putting the exponential curve thing up here. I have had my understanding improved no end. Will be interested to follow your link. 

    Pol.

  • 29 Mar 2020 14:34
    Reply # 8865171 on 8855224

    Sadly the closest I'll get to my favourite scotch whisky is in the hand sanitiser. I've been off the booze for many years now. But I'd be inclined to force-feed it to my guests rather than use it as sanitiser or "snorter"!! There's nothing like a dram to lift the spirits and I'm sure good humour is as important a prevention for all illness as anything else :)

    Mark I'm glad to hear the salt "solution" does it for your summer pollen trouble. As you say, a wash can do no harm! 

    Pol.

  • 29 Mar 2020 10:28
    Reply # 8864986 on 8855224

    Similarly I use a salt nose wash to reduce effects of tree pollen asthma, at same time I squoosh my eyes.  Then clean teeth and gargle.  I have no idea of the effectiveness of salt on COVID, but washing down mucous surfaces can do no harm.

    Back to use of masks / Buff, ok far from perfect, but it does add another stage or two before the virus reaches your mouth, so surely helps?

  • 29 Mar 2020 05:37
    Reply # 8864842 on 8855224
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Slightly off topic but to put this into perspective:

    These are classic exponential growth curves.

    This is pretty horrendous.

    For the source data and the league tables: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

    Last modified: 29 Mar 2020 06:17 | Anonymous member (Administrator)
  • 29 Mar 2020 04:04
    Reply # 8864788 on 8855224
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    The point is, whiskey won't do it. Some of the Chinese hooches such as erguotou would be better than nothing, but it is better to drink the whiskey and buy 99% ethanol.

  • 29 Mar 2020 03:14
    Reply # 8864731 on 8864604
    Deleted user
    Anonymous wrote:

    Be careful of the home remedies.

    Hand sanitiser based on alcohol should contain at least 70% alcohol.

    (Referring here to ethanol. I don't know about iso propanol which is also a base for some sanitisers.)


      Sorry I was mixing proof with percentage I guess.........
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