about to sew new topgun junk sails for my colvin

  • 12 Aug 2018 03:33
    Reply # 6505282 on 6485828
    Anonymous wrote:

     I think that I'd choose Weathermax 80 for a mid weight cloth, where Top Gun was too heavy.

    Have you sewn with Weathermax yet? If not, I'd hold my horses in recommending it to inexperienced/budding sailmakers. It is not easy material to work with. Also you used Mustang not Topgun9 which while similar is not the same thing.

    BTW: I had Mustang on La Chica for six years and covered about 3 500 miles, not an ocean crossing for sure but a reasonable time period and distance. It's still going strong and I've had zero issues with it.


  • 11 Aug 2018 11:49
    Reply # 6485828 on 6382158

    I used Top Gun 9/Mustang for Tystie's latest sails, and I must say that I wasn't impressed with the chafe resistance; after the passage from Canada to New Zealand, there were places around the mast where the filler had been worn away. This fabric has too much filler, too little densely woven cloth, as does Odyssey. Top Gun 11oz is a different thing entirely, and seems to perform well. I think that I'd choose Weathermax 80 for a mid weight cloth, where Top Gun was too heavy.

  • 11 Aug 2018 01:43
    Reply # 6473514 on 6382158

    The regular Top Gun fabric works just fine, the sails on my Gazelle date to 2011 and are doing just fine,if a little faded after one and a half times around the North Atlantic. I just made covers for them a couple of months ago, primarily to discourage birds from making a mess of them and taking up residence when I stop for awhile. Boltropes are good for keeping the sail together and are specifically required by Tom Colvin's sailmaking book. I used the ready made boltropes on dacron tape to speed construction. This was a mistake, the Dacron is rotting away in the sun and I am constantly stitching sections of it back on, it would have been much better to stitch it on by hand in the in the traditional fashion.

  • 10 Aug 2018 23:27
    Reply # 6470851 on 6382158
    Deleted user

    Well, I am being held up in placing my fabric order. apparently "top gun 9" is much harder to find in the US than "top gun" and as long as i am dependent on "marine warehouse" to ship my fabric to panama i am not sure i can get it.

    this took me down a wormhole investigating "top notch 9", and other fabrics. though the "top gun"s  seem to have much higher abrasion resistance. and severe chafe is endemic to my rig. I am open to more suggestions, for fabric choices or shipping to panama options. I have been using sails built in the 70s for 10 years and they are thrashed. i am soooo sick of patching after every daysail i am hoping to make something the same shape (they work well) that i know i can use a long time. the boat weighs 16 tons and we are headed to high latitudes. I dont really want to go down to 6.5 oz cloth.

    also what do folks think about boltrope? i was planning on putting one because of the way my old sails tended to self destruct starting at the ends of the battens , and once i had all the grommets holding the main to its yard rip out at once. probably new fabric is sufficient stop that for a few years, but i am ordering some line anyway soo boltrope?.  buuut... it is an added expense so maybe no?

    i am attaching a comparison chart of varios fabrics including top gun, top notch and odessy from marlen fabrics. 

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  • 20 Jul 2018 02:06
    Reply # 6389540 on 6382158

    Hi Margaret,

    I make junk sails and it looks as if I may be making a set for a Colvin junk later this year. Top Gun is very strong and long lasting and I know Colvin liked it, however my personnel opinion would be that it is unnecessarily heavy for a junk of the Gazelles size. Mustang (I think now called Top Gun 9?) would be a much better choice. If you have questions, feel free to email me directly (my email can be found via my profile).

    Last modified: 20 Jul 2018 02:06 | Anonymous member
  • 19 Jul 2018 08:21
    Reply # 6388456 on 6382158

    Is it the Top Gun you want to know about, or the Colvin sails?  Kurt Ulmer made Top Gun sails for mehitabel years and years ago - and they are still going strong, having never been covered.  But offhand, I can't think of anyone who has made sails for a Colvin.  Quite a lot of the members don't use the website that much; it might be worth your going through the membership directory and searching for 'Colvin' and 'Top Gun' and see if this results in a member who has made their own sails.  I'm sure they'd be only too happy for you to contact them.

    Shirley and I are old friends and keep in regular contact.  The last I heard from her was in early May when she was getting ready to set off towards the Gambier Is.  She hadn't mentioned Ecuador.  However, it is now 19th July and I have heard nothing.  She should have been there ages ago and although getting an Internet connection isn't straightforward, there, I would have expected she'd have found a way.  You haven't heard anything, I assume?

    Last modified: 19 Jul 2018 08:23 | Anonymous member
  • 15 Jul 2018 21:04
    Message # 6382158
    Deleted user

    hi! My colvin doxy junk schooner is in Linton panama and I am currently collecting and shipping my supplies topgun/grommets/thread to begin sewing my new suit of junk sails, starting in the beginning of september.

    I am not too worried about the process but would love to have a mentor if anyone has done this before wants to be my penpall! svdrummer at gmail

    also: shirley speedwell if your lurking, did you go to ecuador? how was the canal? email me! i lost your email adress!

    thanks evryone!

    Margaret Drummer

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