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  • 28 Dec 2021 14:45
    Reply # 12219866 on 12218045
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    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    I have to say I find Google extremely frustrating usually giving me exactly what I'm NOT looking for because it happens sound slightly like something the idiotic popular culture is pursuing.

                                                             H.W. 

    I have received "offers" to have my web page moved up the rank in google searches (for a sum of money of course). The first hits (even the non-ad ones) are there because they have paid money to get there. I have searched for particular files by exact name and rarely find them before page three with google.


     Len:

          I totally get having paid preference on search results... they have to make money to stay in business.   But Google completely ignores what your search request actually is and at least the first few pages is often wildly unrelated.   They also seem to automatically assume that you are looking for the same garbage the TV Zombies with their celebrity, sports, video game, and pornography obsessions are looking for and just made a typo... which is beyond insulting!    Formerly you could do a "search within", which was one feature that made Google actually work decently, but in their infinite wisdom decided that instead you should type long detailed complex search terms that could run to several lines.      I would love to see a "search assistant" application or website that would make it easy to use Google and get a rational search result, filtering out the garbage, and allowing you to narrow things down by eliminating various words, or domains.    I find that it's often easier to get a useful search result if you go to images rather than text results.... depending on what I'm searching for.   They collect information about you to enable them to target advertising, but then don't even do that effectively.   I don't object to getting adds that are for things I'm interested in, particularly when the alternative is to get a load of garbage.

           Pardon my rant........... but I find Google extremely frustrating... It's gotten worse over the years. 

                                                          H.W.


  • 27 Dec 2021 18:38
    Reply # 12218045 on 12217582
    Anonymous wrote:
    I have to say I find Google extremely frustrating usually giving me exactly what I'm NOT looking for because it happens sound slightly like something the idiotic popular culture is pursuing.

                                                             H.W. 

    I have received "offers" to have my web page moved up the rank in google searches (for a sum of money of course). The first hits (even the non-ad ones) are there because they have paid money to get there. I have searched for particular files by exact name and rarely find them before page three with google.

  • 27 Dec 2021 15:41
    Reply # 12217582 on 12217319
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    Anonymous wrote:

    i can download all the magazines, but what i'm missing are portrait versions of issues 61 and 66.
    i prefer to display them as double sided spreads like a physical book, and on a normal screen landscape versions are hard to read that way. (not a big problem, but if it 's just about linking an existing file, i might appreciate it…)

    ueli


    In the course of this thread, I mentioned the idea of compiling a book consisting of the collected articles, etc from the magazines.    This could take the form of a printable Ebook, or a printed book, or a collection of annual yearbooks, though those wouldn't be very large..... "decade book"?     It would be very useful to have them in printed format with an index.   I have a collection of monthly magazines in print from another organization, but due to the large number of magazines it is very difficult to find anything when something piques my interest.  

          Most of us have become so reliant on technology that it is a bit worrisome, and I'm worse than many people, preferring to get Ebooks and read them on my Ipad ... as far as entertainment type reading.   Nothing beats an actual paper book where reference books are concerned....... at least for me.   I don't find myself bouncing around in Ebooks like I do in paper books.   My own "study style" is very non-linear, and always has been.  I'll read something, that makes me curious about something mentioned in the text, drop a bookmark where I was and pursue whatever I was curious about, filling in the gaps in this manner by branching out.   It got me through college text books without the utter boring drudgery of linear reading.  Actually I don't believe I have EVER read a text book straight through.   The internet very much matches my style  in this respect.   I often take intellectual "side trips" using a search engine.   I have to say I find Google extremely frustrating usually giving me exactly what I'm NOT looking for because it happens sound slightly like something the idiotic popular culture is pursuing.  What I wouldn't give to have a search engine that would give me what I am looking for instead of a bunch of garbage, forcing me to wade through pages and pages of "junk results" before finding what I want.  I use Duck Duck Go mostly these days because they don't track you and pile commercial stuff on your search results, or look for some possible pornographic result that might be "similar".    

                                                             H.W. 

  • 27 Dec 2021 11:56
    Reply # 12217319 on 12207007

    i can download all the magazines, but what i'm missing are portrait versions of issues 61 and 66.
    i prefer to display them as double sided spreads like a physical book, and on a normal screen landscape versions are hard to read that way. (not a big problem, but if it 's just about linking an existing file, i might appreciate it…)

    ueli

  • 25 Dec 2021 20:14
    Reply # 12214696 on 12214551
    Anonymous wrote:

                    Just a quick note...... I'm a bit of a luddite.  Phones (to me) are for calling people and talking to them, not internet access devices.   I don't even own a so called "smart phone", and my cheap flip phone gets used only when traveling.  I have owned computers since before DOS even existed (CPM days), and the first time I used one was in 1967 believe it or not.  It took up 3 floors at the university about 150 miles from where I was.  Who'da'thunk we'd have tiny telephones that were more capable than the supercomputers of those days   ;-)   I was using an Ipad in addition to a Linux Suse, and a Windows 10 computer in my efforts.

                                                                            H.W.

    In general, FF on debian or ubuntu seem to work just fine. It does seem I need to turn off my plugin to block ads and tracking or at least manually add a lot of sites in to allow data from.

    I don't know if I would be called "luddite", but still use Pine (alpine these days) for email and IRC (now on libre as freenode has imploded) for chat. I have replaced perl with python though and moved from c to c++.

    Happy holidays all.

  • 25 Dec 2021 15:39
    Reply # 12214551 on 12214473
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    Anonymous wrote:

    Hi, HW.


    Further to your reply about the "index" not appearing underneath the JRA Magazine title as I posted in an earlier reply, I was curious be about why it worked for my phone and not yours.


    So when I clicked on the "JRA Magazine", initially I got the index title showing to the right of JRA Mag.


    But after a few seconds of waiting, a new page opens and this puts the "index" beneath the JRA Magazine title.

    Clicking on this " index", then brings up a ( more user friendly) index magazines up to Magazine no. 75, in an easy to read format, with the main headings within each magazine and a clickable link to open up the PDF associated with each magazine.


    (This index is the one that used to be there when opening up the index on the PC)


    Clicking on the links opens up a PDF version of the magazine to either read online or download when it has fully opened up in the phone.

    I see you got it to work anyway, so no worries.


    NFFN.



    Merry Christmas David:

                    Just a quick note...... I'm a bit of a luddite.  Phones (to me) are for calling people and talking to them, not internet access devices.   I don't even own a so called "smart phone", and my cheap flip phone gets used only when traveling.  I have owned computers since before DOS even existed (CPM days), and the first time I used one was in 1967 believe it or not.  It took up 3 floors at the university about 150 miles from where I was.  Who'da'thunk we'd have tiny telephones that were more capable than the supercomputers of those days   ;-)   I was using an Ipad in addition to a Linux Suse, and a Windows 10 computer in my efforts.

                                                                            H.W.

  • 25 Dec 2021 15:31
    Reply # 12214548 on 12214473
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    Anonymous wrote:

    Hi, HW.


    Further to your reply about the "index" not appearing underneath the JRA Magazine title as I posted in an earlier reply, I was curious be about why it worked for my phone and not yours.


    So when I clicked on the "JRA Magazine", initially I got the index title showing to the right of JRA Mag.


    But after a few seconds of waiting, a new page opens and this puts the "index" beneath the JRA Magazine title.

    Clicking on this " index", then brings up a ( more user friendly) index magazines up to Magazine no. 75, in an easy to read format, with the main headings within each magazine and a clickable link to open up the PDF associated with each magazine.


    (This index is the one that used to be there when opening up the index on the PC)


    Clicking on the links opens up a PDF version of the magazine to either read online or download when it has fully opened up in the phone.

    I see you got it to work anyway, so no worries.


    NFFN.



    Merry Christmas Kevin:

         As you have probably already noted, I figured out how to access the PDFs.   My mistake was clicking the title which made it look like it was downloading, but didn't.    Using the 3 dots on the right and selecting download from there it works fine for me.  That either makes the process counter intuitive, or reflects negatively on me  ;-)

                                                             H.W.

    Last modified: 25 Dec 2021 15:32 | Deleted user
  • 25 Dec 2021 13:33
    Reply # 12214473 on 12207007

    Hi, HW.


    Further to your reply about the "index" not appearing underneath the JRA Magazine title as I posted in an earlier reply, I was curious be about why it worked for my phone and not yours.


    So when I clicked on the "JRA Magazine", initially I got the index title showing to the right of JRA Mag.


    But after a few seconds of waiting, a new page opens and this puts the "index" beneath the JRA Magazine title.

    Clicking on this " index", then brings up a ( more user friendly) index magazines up to Magazine no. 75, in an easy to read format, with the main headings within each magazine and a clickable link to open up the PDF associated with each magazine.


    (This index is the one that used to be there when opening up the index on the PC)


    Clicking on the links opens up a PDF version of the magazine to either read online or download when it has fully opened up in the phone.

    I see you got it to work anyway, so no worries.


    NFFN.

  • 25 Dec 2021 11:32
    Reply # 12214418 on 12207007

    There’s a committee meeting early in January - we can discuss this and see if there’s an easy fix.  If not we will look into a temporary arrangement.  Either way, we will make sure there is a way to access this essential resource.  But not today for obvious reasons!!!  Merry Christmas to all.

  • 24 Dec 2021 15:04
    Reply # 12213465 on 12212486
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    Anonymous wrote:

    Hi, HW.


    I tried another experiment using my mobile phone (cell), with Android 10.

    After logging on, I clicked on "JRA Magazine".

    Ignore the index which pops up on the right with the "Box" index in it. Trying to download from there didn't work for me either.

    Instead I clicked on the word "index" displayed below the "JRA Magazine" title.

    This brought a full index of the newsletters and magazines with a clickable link for each issue.

    Clicking on this link opened up the magazine and when that was fully opened in the magazine form, I could save the file as a PDF in the downloads section of my phone.


    Again tried it twice and it worked perfectly both times. A little slow but no more than a minute. Depends on connection speed, I suppose.

    At least you will be able to read about Alleda on your phone and while I haven't tried it, I'm pretty sure one can transfer PDF files from the phone to the laptop.


    It might work for you, including on an Apple phone.


     I'm confused........ the ONLY place "index" shows up for me is to the right when I mouse over JRA Magazines.    If I click JRA Magazines, I get current issues (87), and everything below that is in BOX...........If I simply click the title it will say it's downloading.......... but if I mouse over the title and then click the box on the right with 3 dots, then select download it will actually download for me.... I've tested this procedure on several files, and it works......... a bit counter-intuitive, but it does work.......... Thanks!
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