Boat electrics - solar controller

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  • 09 Oct 2012 03:45
    Reply # 1098444 on 1075616
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    Gary King wrote:I'm wondering if the JRA brains trust can answer a question about solar controllers. 
    I'm planning on a 12V system, 100W solar panels, 2 x 100Ah batteries and the total lighting load would be around 10A (all LED's) - make it 15A when the laptop is charging. So I figure a 20A controller would be fine.

    However, if I add a 500W inverter to the circuit (for intermittent use), which could draw 40+ Amps, it would overwhelm the output of the controller.
    Is it such a big deal for the inverter to bypass the controller and wire directly to the battery (with fuse)? Or do I need to pony up for a larger capacity controller?

    I think you have got good answers...including size the solar controller to your solar panels, not your loads. But one more note applies to that:

    Some solar controllers (Mine is one; a Morningstar SunSaver 15MPPT) have a load output. This is designed to power something that you want to turn off if your batteries get too low. (irrigation pumps, for example) I can't think of any reason to use THAT output aboard a boat.

    I picked the model I did for several reasons, one being that it appeared to be less dependent on fans than larger models, although it does let (salty) air flow through the unit passively to cool it.

    My whole system is two 140W solar panels (Kyocera), that controller, and a smart battery monitor (Xantrex LinkLITE) which watches the full state of charge of my house bank plus the starting bank voltage.

    This sounds pretty similar to the other recommendations you have already got.

    The system works well for me, and I actually have more generating capacity than I've needed (so far). While at anchor my batteries got topped up almost every day.
  • 29 Sep 2012 22:39
    Reply # 1086934 on 1075616
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    Make sure you buy one that has good filtering for RFI.  I bought a fairly inexpensive solar controller that causes a fairly loud 'ticking' sound when the battery is almost completely charged.  It overpowers the audio on my HF transceiver.  I've put a switch in-line to disable the solar controller if I'm using the radio and am having problems with RFI.  I don't have problems with interference when I'm using my 2mtr xcvr (receiver is FM) or listening to my cd player.
  • 27 Sep 2012 00:25
    Reply # 1084196 on 1075616
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                                                                         Stavanger, Thursday

    Peter

    I don’t recall which PBO issue, but I think that galvanic isolator was made by soldering together discrete diodes. However, after having pondered Brian’s bridge rectifier, I have come to that he is right, provided that the rectifier bridge is of the 3-phase type. Here you can see how to hook up such a bridge to work as a galvanic isolator. Only diodes 1 – 4 are active and the DC output terminals must me shorted with a link. A rectifier bridge for a 12/24V AC generator would do fine.

    Arne

    PS: Now, having slept on it, I see that the simple 1-phase rectifier bridge will also work perfectly well as a galvanic isolator on the ground wire. All one has to do is to link the DC output terminals together and then use the two input AC terminals as shown in this diagram. Still, it could be that a 3-phase rectifier with a high-current rating is easier to get at. Any auto-electric shop would have it.

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  • 26 Sep 2012 22:54
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    Hmm. I think we need more information to try and clarify the difference, if any, between the PBO diodes and a galvanic isolator. Arne do you know which issue of PBO the article appeared in. I have hundreds of back issues so I probably have the article.
  • 26 Sep 2012 22:11
    Reply # 1084095 on 1075616
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    A galvanic isolator is described as a 'simple bridge rectifier' here. Any help?
  • 26 Sep 2012 21:46
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    Arne Kverneland wrote:
    Peter Manning wrote:Arne, do you know if the use of diodes as described in the PBO article you referred to do the same job as a glavanic isolator. I have fitted a galvanic isolator to the ground wire on the mains cable coming into the boat. To check it is working correctly there are two warning lights, one for AC the other for DC current.


    That galvanic isolator is most probably th same thing as the diodes I described. I can't see what else it could be.

    Arne


    Thank you Arne. I agree.
  • 26 Sep 2012 08:41
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    Peter Manning wrote:Arne, do you know if the use of diodes as described in the PBO article you referred to do the same job as a glavanic isolator. I have fitted a galvanic isolator to the ground wire on the mains cable coming into the boat. To check it is working correctly there are two warning lights, one for AC the other for DC current.


    That galvanic isolator is most probably th same thing as the diodes I described. I can't see what else it could be.

    Arne

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  • 26 Sep 2012 08:35
    Reply # 1083541 on 1075616
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    Arne, do you know if the use of diodes as described in the PBO article you referred to do the same job as a glavanic isolator. I have fitted a galvanic isolator to the ground wire on the mains cable coming into the boat. To check it is working correctly there are two warning lights, one for AC the other for DC current.
  • 26 Sep 2012 08:31
    Reply # 1083540 on 1083117
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    Gary Pick wrote:Gary I don't know about West Oz but 95 watt PVs are selling for around $250 here. Chinese no doubt but still with a 20-25 year warranty. I have an 80 watt PV bolted on.
    Well, the advantage of using several smaller panels is that they can be connected in series to get 38V or 50V or more, because I plan to buy one of those super duper MPPT controllers. They get very efficient on higher voltages. Like on a cloudy day, a single panel might deliver just 12V, which makes the controller turn off charging. i.e., no juice to the battery. But if 2 panels in series, they might be delivering 20 or 24V on that marginal day, which the MPPT controller will convert to 14 or 15V and still charge your battery - a little @#%# miracle.
  • 25 Sep 2012 21:31
    Reply # 1083117 on 1075616
    Gary I don't know about West Oz but 95 watt PVs are selling for around $250 here. Chinese no doubt but still with a 20-25 year warranty. I have an 80 watt PV bolted on.
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